nVidia's GeForce 9 series!

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Friday, February 22nd 2008, 1:30am

heh just recieved an email from XFX that nVidia released their GeForce 9 series!

Meet nVidia's new GeForce 9600 GT PCI-E 2.0 512MB GDDR3

here the XFX model, infact the same refference design, just a different label heh!

Official nVidia site tab:
http://www.nvidia.com/object/geforce9.html

Official XFX site tab:
http://www.xfxforce.com/web/product/list…7688#openLarger

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Friday, February 22nd 2008, 9:37pm

Jep, CB did some nice test.

http://www.computerbase.de/artikel/hardw…ce_9600_gt_sli/

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Monday, February 25th 2008, 9:09am

9 Series

There I have one point of critizism: Where is the 9800 GTX/Ultra? The "GeForce 9 Launch" wasn't much more than a 9600 launch, so I'm pretty much disappointed. Even the GX2 isn't there, although that would've basically still been a G8x-based card.

nVidia, where art thou? I want my shiny new GTX/Ultra. :rolleyes:

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Monday, February 25th 2008, 9:27am

http://en.expreview.com/?p=274#more-274

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Monday, February 25th 2008, 9:28am

ich glaub ich werde auf eine HD3870X2 sparen...

...Römer sind keine Biber!

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Monday, February 25th 2008, 10:48am

9800gtx

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http://en.expreview.com/?p=274#more-274

Zeigt offensichtlich eine neue GTS. Hätte mich auch gewundert, wenn eine GTX so "miese" Spezifikationen gehabt hätte (512MB RAM, 256-Bit Interface, usw.). Effizienz hin oder her, aber 768-1024MB bei 384-512Bit am Interface und 192-256 Shadereinheiten dürfen's bitte schon sein!

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Monday, February 25th 2008, 11:05am

Für meinen Geschmack ist das ganze wirklich etwas unterdimensioniert, dabei könnte man mit den Specs richtig auf den Putz han - gekauft wird es auch wenns etwas teurer ausfällt.

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Monday, February 25th 2008, 11:13am

here some nice pics of a SLI Reworked GeForce 9800 GX2

If you look at the PCB layout of both card parts, and where the connectors aka DVI's and TV-Out + HDMI ports are, it looks as is the G92-450 GPU's are aimed face to face with the other, there by 1 GPU faced upwards and the other facing down on the other downwards.

That SLI cable looks odd? When comparing with the 7900 GX2 and the 7950 GX2, this looks alot more complicated right?

if the GPU is called G92-450 would it be that it might run @ 450Mhz core speed? as you can see it's a Rev.A2 GPU also

The ram is K4J52324QE-BJ1A，1.0ns GDDR3 512Mbit memory

And since this is a prototype it has a hand soldered rework

To the SLi connector ofcourse! heh I suppose the engineers had to rework this so Quad SLI may work in a more efficiant way? heh who knows

here a pic of the bridge chip which is named NP200-SLI.

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Monday, February 25th 2008, 11:32am

Plz recheck the imglinks - canÂ´t see any pics.

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Monday, February 25th 2008, 11:39am

Quoted

Original von Phobos
Plz recheck the imglinks - canÂ´t see any pics.

Fixxed! I used a better upload page

Like Chiphell explains,these will be the official specs of the Ultra High End GF9 series:

GF9800GX2
Core: G92 x2
Corespeed: 600Mhz
Memspeed: 1000Mhz GDDR3 (effectief 2000Mhz)
Shaderspeed: 1500Mhz
Streamprocessors: 128 x2
Memory: 512MB x2
Memory interface: 256-bit x2
QuadSLI Support
Price: $599

GF9800GTX
Core: G92
Corespeed: 675Mhz
Memspeed: 1100Mhz GDDR3 (effectief 2200Mhz)
Shaderspeed: 1688Mhz
Streamprocessors: 128
Memory: 512MB
Memory interface: 256-bit
3 Way SLI Support

GF9800GT
Core: G92
Corespeed: 650Mhz
Memspeed: 1000Mhz GDDR3 (effectief 2000Mhz)
Shaderspeed: 1625Mhz
Streamprocessors: 112
Memory: 512MB
Memory interface: 256-bit

http://bbs.chiphell.com/viewthread.php?t…&extra=page%3D1

I thank CJ for posting this @ Gathering Of Tweakers.net
http://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/list_messages/1274101/2

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Monday, February 25th 2008, 3:45pm

Ãœültraaa

This doesn't sound very promising. And there is no Ultra?

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Monday, February 25th 2008, 3:57pm

RE: Ãœültraaa

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This doesn't sound very promising. And there is no Ultra?

hmm not yet by the looks of it, it might come some time later because the 8800 Ultra slo took a while before it came after the GTX

heh there is still hope and if NV will make a 9800 ULTRA they should give it 512bit GDDR5 or so :topmodel:

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Monday, February 25th 2008, 7:20pm

nvidia hat ma wieder fleißig hausaufgaben gemacht. laut computerbase schlägt die 9600GT im SLI alles bisher dagewesene und hebt sich selbst von der neuen 3870X2 oder 8800 Ultra noch deutlich ab. nur im ultra quality modus bricht sie gegenüber den ultra-highend karten ein.
überlege mir, ob ich nich meine 640er GTS noch versilbere, solang da noch jemand geld für bezahlt

und in ein SLI system investiere. die günstigen nforce750er boards kommen da gerade recht, wenn sie net gerade so flatschneu wären, dass die auswahl spärlich ist und die boards ansich wohl recht unreif..

dabei läuft mein sys doch grad so geschmiert.. :mauer:

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Monday, February 25th 2008, 10:48pm

Wieso haben die Spitzenmodelle GX2 und GTX nur ein 256 bit Speicherinterface, wo doch die 8800er GTX/Ultra ein 384 bit haben.

Irgenwie kann ich diese Infos nicht so ganz glauben...

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Tuesday, February 26th 2008, 12:15pm

Das soll wohl nur ein schlechter Witz sein...

Da ist ja nicht viel Unterschied zu meiner, ausser der viel höheren Texturfüllrate, aber dass kann nicht sein, dass eine 8800gt eine höhere Pixelfüllrate als die 9800GTX hat...

Sollte eine neue Grakageneration nicht mindestens doppelt so schnell sein als die vorangegangene. (Zumindes war es die letzten Male so)
Oder ist das wie bei der GeForce6800/7800 wo sich die Kerne ebenfalls sehr ähnelten....

[URL=http://www.pcgameshardware.de/aid,633661/News/GPU-Z-Shot_der_Geforce_9800GTX_enthuellt_alle_Details/]Quelle[/URL]

Screenshot der 9800GTX

Screenshot meiner geoceden 8800GT

edit: Hier mit Version 0.1.7
Die Texturfüllrate ist plötzlich höher als die der 9800GTX.

Fazit: Meines Erachtens ein riesengroßer Fake und die 9800GTX hat ganz andere Specs als in vielen Foren und Newsseiten genannt.

edit: oder deren GPUz hat die Werte falsch ausgelesen

Wobei bei GPUz m.E. die Daten im Programm bereits gespeichert sind und nur die Graka ausgelesen wird...

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Tuesday, February 26th 2008, 1:03pm

Der 9800 GTX Screen sieht für mich eher nach 8800 GTS 512 aus...

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Tuesday, February 26th 2008, 1:22pm

heh my speculations seemed to be right afterall and I'm not surprised, still odd why nVidia didn't choose 512Bit GDDR3 for their 9800 GTX series, since it should of been possible, let's hope that it's raw rendering power will show us better results, since ram bandwidth doesn't have to mean everything

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Tuesday, February 26th 2008, 3:42pm

9800

Not necessarily, but I prefer high FSAA settings (as well as TAA!!), and that is, where the memory interface either shows its teeth or fails to deliver. And by all means, a 256-Bit GDDR3 interface can only fail to deliver... Unless those specs are fakeyfakey or nVidia has some lossess ultra-efficient framebuffer compression algorithm up its sleeves (which i frankly don't believe).

And since this is surely no tile-based renderer (*hahem*), all a 9800GTX with those specs can do is LOSE. Which i do not believe when looking at G80's and G92's tremendous success. Shrinking that core to 65nm and letting it fail after workover and tuning doesn't make sense to me.

This gotta be fake. I'll give this a 75% chance of being nVidia Contra-Propaganda!!

You're not with me on that assumption? All fair and well, but may i call the "Nono, GeForce 8800 will not be a unified shader" game that nVidia played on us back into your memories..... This can pretty well be the same game all over again, albeit not up to the same proportions.

Edit: There is another small something, that doesn't seem right. nVidia might have broken their nomenclature scheme already with the new GTS card, but still, a G92-based GTX seems.. odd. At least at this point of time. Where is G90 alias D9E?

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Tuesday, February 26th 2008, 5:29pm

I'm hoping they will release an Ultra with a G100 hehe add 512Bit GDDR5 mwoah we could use that for a nice OpenGL renderer right peeps :respekt:

you lads might think why I started this topic, well I just want something different than an ATi setup for my next upcoming system, since I'm also interested in what camp green can do as well

I'd like to see their new FSAA techs as well and I think they are the most dominating on the market, as I find FSAA x8 on a 6000 nicer than FSAA x8 on a Dual R600 setup I have now, so I thought hmm maybe nVidia's GF 9 series in my answer since they did take over 3dfx right

Though the Voodoo5's FSAA can hardly be beaten but that's just my opinion.

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