The World Voodoo5 5000 & 6000 Lists & Info.

Gold Leader · October 11, 2009 at 10:17 PM

Aloha everyone

Here is the World Voodoo5 5000 & 6000 lists revamped and I also added the Know Hows, the research you name it! It's all here and all thanx to the Voodooalert.de crew for alowing me to do this.
See this as a gift from me, as I do owe you people alot for all you have done and meant for me over the past recent years, so this is my way of saying; I thank you all alot for all your help ,caring and other things that came to place, this is also my largest 3dfx undertaking ever for any 3dfx club.

So here we go shall we

The World Voodoo5 6000 List

The other lists can be found here:

V6K Team
3dfxzone.it
Guru Of 3D.com

Listing of defect cards:

V6K Different type amount | Revision | PCB Date | V6K Total amount

Total Rev. 41-4999's: 1
Total Rev.A0 0700's: 3
Total Rev.A1 1500's: 2
Total Rev.A2 2600's: 1
Total Rev.A3 3400's: 1
Total Rev.A 3700's: 3
Total Rev.A 3900's: 1

Total defect 3dfx Voodoo 5 6000 AGP's: 12

Listing of functional cards:

V6K Different type amount | Revision | PCB Date | V6K Total amount

Total Rev. 41-4999's: 0
Total Rev.A0 0700's: 1
Total Rev.A1 1500's: 3
Total Rev.A2 2600's: 6
Total Rev.A3 3400's: 6
Total Rev.A 3700's: 52
Total Rev.A 3900's: 1

Total functional 3dfx Voodoo 5 6000 AGP's: 69

Gold Leader · October 11, 2009 at 10:18 PM

Total of all cards with all functional Voodoo Volts:

Total Rev. 41-4999's: 1
Total Rev.A0 0700's: 4
Total Rev.A1 1500's: 5
Total Rev.A2 2600's: 7
Total Rev.A3 3400's: 7
Total Rev.A 3700's: 55
Total Rev.A 3900's: 2

Total 3dfx Voodoo 5 6000 AGP's: 81

Listing of Voodoo Volts:

VV Different type amount Large Legacy VV | Small Legacy VV | Late VV | Total amount VV

Total Large Legacy VV's 2
Total Small Legacy VV's 6
Total Late VV's: 19

Total 3dfx Voodoo Volts: 27

HANDLE WITH CARE!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHtQCUOr4lw

The Voodoo5 6000 Motherboard List

Compatible Mainboards for V6K's
Abit Sa7 (SiS645dx) Rev. 1.2 (latest BIOS) compatible Rev.A 3700
SIDENOTE: If 98SE is used, the latest Raziel Evolution Driver is needed, Amigamerlin + Reference Drivers will cause the System to lock up in 3D Apps (no further drivers tested). No Problems under XP with reference drivers, Amigamerlin, SFFT, none further tested
Asus P4S533-E (SiS645dx) Rev. 1.04 (BIOS 1006 and 1008Beta tested) compatible Rev.A 3700
ASUS P3B-F (i440BX, v1.04): compatible (tested BIOS up to 1006, higher BIOS versions result in no-vga beep) Rev.A3 3400
EPoX EP-BX3 Rev.A2 2600, Rev.A3 3400, Rev.A 3700 compatible
EPoX EP-8K3A Rev. 1.0 Rev.A 3700 compatible
EPoX EP-8K3A+ Rev. 1.1 Rev.A 3700 compatible
EPoX EP-8K5A2+ Rev. 1.2 Rev.A2 2600 & Rev.A 3700 compatible
EPoX EP-8K5A3+ Rev. 1.1 Rev.A2 2600 & Rev.A 3700 compatible
EPoX EP-8KHA VIA Apollo KT266(A) compatible Rev.A 3700
Intel OR840 (i840, v701, v702, v703, v704): compatible
(v702 tested extensively, tested BIOSes include IBM and Intel original BIOS v225, v235, v248 and v255 versions (255 got a bug with FSB133 stability though, 248 recommended)) Rev.A3 3400
Gigabyte GA-7DPXDW-P Rev: 1.0 Rev.A 3700 compatible
SOYO KT333 ULTRA DRAGON compatible, Rev.A 3700
Tyan Tiger 760 MPX Rev.A2 2600, Rev.A3 3400 & Rev.A 3700 compatible
Tyan Thunder K7X Pro Rev.A2 2600, Rev.A3 3400 & Rev.A 3700 compatible

Partly Compatible Mainboards for V6K's
ASUS P3C-E (i820): partly compatible (runs, but HB1-SE66 heats up abnormally during POST and operation, confirmed to pose a real danger to the bridge chip! Do NOT try! If you absolutely have to, using a heatsink for the HB1-SE66 bridge chip is a must!) Rev.A3 3400 & Rev.A 3700
MSI KT3 Ultra2 (KT333 CE) partly compatible Rev.A 3700

Incompatible Mainboards for V6K's
ABIT BX6 (i440BX, v1.0): incompatible (no POST) Rev.A 3700
ABIT BE6-II (i440BX, v1.1): incompatible (no-vga beep) Rev.A 3700
ABIT ST6-RAID (i815EP, B0 Step): incompatible (no-vga beep) Rev.A 3700
ASUS A7A266-E incompatible, Rev.A 3700
ASUS A7M266-D Rev.1.01 incompatible, Rev.A 3700
ASUS TUA-266 Rev. 1.01 Rev.A 3700 incompatible
ASUS A7V333-R Rev. 1.02 & 2.00 Rev.A 3700 incompatible
Soyo 6BA+IV (i440BX): incompatible (no-vga beep) Rev.A 3700

Gold Leader · October 13, 2009 at 3:08 AM

The Voodoo5 6000 Know Hows

Hi all

To be added to my Wold V6K Lists I will need some small info from your card(s) so hereby this quick guide that will show you how to identify your Revision and PCB date of your Voodoo5 6000 video card(s)

To find the Revision on your card you'll have to seek the Rev location which is mostly on the topside's tails end which sits above the 2000 3DFX INTERACTIVE inprint; just above the TIVE part of that phrase over here:
[Blocked Image: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/6731-2/DSC00857.jpg]

Which looks like this enlarged:
[Blocked Image: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/29673-1/Rev_A+top+side.JPG]

This counts for all cards.

The Revision can also be found on the rear of the cards some near the 3dfx logo near the backplate and some others on the rearside of the tail's end. All revisions are placed behind a card PCB number, with a Rev.A 3700 for example the Rev is located here:
[Blocked Image: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/6751-2/DSC00867.jpg]

Which looks like this enlarged:
[Blocked Image: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/29671-1/Rev_A+rear+view.JPG]

The "A" is the Revision of the card which reads that this is a Rev.A

The Revision on a Rev.A0 0700 is found elsewhere just on the rear side of the card's tail's end and it's printed in dark green, so you'll need a sharp eye to spot this
[Blocked Image: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/30513-2/Rev_A0+0700+back.jpg]

This is what you must seek very big scan photo!
[Blocked Image: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/38580-1/A0_revision.jpg]

The same counts for the Rev.A1 1500 cards, only their revision is printed in light olive green so it's easier to spot.
which can be seen here:
[Blocked Image: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/14491-2/3dfx+Voodoo+5+6000+AGP+RevA1+1500+Back.jpg]

For all the cards that are Rev.A2 2600 to Rev.A 3900 the Revision is placed near the backplate as shown with the Rev.A 3700
here an example with a Rev.A2 2600 from Omega_Supreme:
[Blocked Image: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/33803-2/Toms+Rev_A2+2600+Back.jpg]

As you can see the Revision is A2 on this one which is placed behind it's PCB part number.

As for the PCB dates this is a different issue, a PCB date on a Voodoo5 6000 is placed in a seperate order first the week date number then the year date number.

As for that Rev.A2 2600 it's PCB date is located on the rear side of it's tail's end as you can see it reads 2600 week 26 of the year 2000.

This counts also for the Rev.A1 1500 and the Rev.A0 0700 , only this last mentioned card has it printed in white, which can be seen here:
[Blocked Image: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/30513-2/Rev_A0+0700+back.jpg]

It's very small but readable and looks like this as shown on gdonovan's blank PCB'ed Rev.A0 0700:
[Blocked Image: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/16156-1/0700_v6k_1.jpg]

As for the Rev.A3 3400, Rev.A 3700 and Rev.A 3900 the PCB date is placed near the backplate, the 3400 is the only one where the PCB date is located slightly closer to the backplate like so:
[Blocked Image: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/29486-2/a3_back1.jpg]

It's just under the Pc2A 94V-0 white inprint, Which reads 3400 week 34 of the year 2000.

And for the Rev.A 3900 it's located here very big scan photo!:
[Blocked Image: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/28534-2/VooDoo5_6000_3900_back.jpg]

For the Rev.A 3700 it's located here:
[Blocked Image: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/4301-2/rev3700_back.jpg]

Which looks like this in an enlarged format:
[Blocked Image: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/29668-1/3700.JPG]

Well today was very intersting, as I did some research on the Rev,A0 0700, Rev.A1 1500 and Rev.A2 2600 cards,I found out that these also have a U509 and that them Intel boards the Rev.A0 0700 and Rev.A1 1500 have not only a U509 but also a U508!!

I can show you also

Look closely:

here the rear side of Omega's Rev.A2 2600 right
[Blocked Image: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/33803-2/Toms+Rev_A2+2600+Back.jpg]

Here is where I found it's U509, I circled it!:
[Blocked Image: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/38588-1/U509+Rev_A2+2600.jpg]

The Rev.A0 0700 and Rev.A1 1500 are more intersting these have not only a U509 chip ... but also a U508 chip!!!!
Look here!!!

Omega's Rev.A0 0700
[Blocked Image: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/30513-2/Rev_A0+0700+back.jpg]

Here I circled U508 and U509 on Omega's Rev.A0 0700:
[Blocked Image: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/3859…Rev_A0+0700.JPG]

Here a Scan of a Rev.A1 1500:
[Blocked Image: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/14491-2/3dfx+Voodoo+5+6000+AGP+RevA1+1500+Back.jpg]

Here I circled U508 and U509 on that scanned Rev.A1 1500
[Blocked Image: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/3858…Rev_A1+1500.jpg]

Here the H 509 of the Rev.A3 3400:
[Blocked Image: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/38594-1/Rev_A3+3400+U509.jpg]

Here the U509 of the Rev.A 3700:
[Blocked Image: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/38592-1/Rev_A+3700+U509.jpg]

Here the U509 of the Rev.A 3900:
[Blocked Image: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/38596-1/Rev_A+3900+U509.jpg]

Since the rear layout of the Rev.A3 3400, Rev.A 3700 and Rev.A 3900 are identcal, here I show you where U509 on these three can be located:
[Blocked Image: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/29486-2/a3_back1.jpg]

It's that long narrow chip just left from the 3dfx logo.

Gold Leader · October 13, 2009 at 3:14 AM

The World Voodoo5 5000 List

The other V5K Lists can be found here:

V6K Team
Guru of 3D.com
3dfxzone.it
x-3dfx.yuku.com
xcpus.com
Thandor.net

V5K Different type amount | Revision | PCB Date | V5K Total amount

Total PCI Rev.A0 4899's: 1
Total PCI Rev.A1 0900's: 6
Total AGP Rev.A0 3700's: 8

Total Voodoo5 5000 PCI's: 7
Total Voodoo5 5000 AGP's: 8

The Voodoo5 5000 Know Hows

Hi all

This will be a quick guide that will show you on how to find the Revision and the PCB date of your Voodoo5 5000 video card(s).

Since there are 3 different Voodoo5 5000 revisions and there are quite a few people that have one, two or even three I think even for such a small amount of people such a guide can always come in handy, especially for the people that just received a 5000 based Voodoo5 card.

So here we go shall we

To find the Revision of your Voodoo5 5000 PCI card isn't that hard it's located on the top right corner of both PCI revisions, just along side the backplate:

Here my ex- Voodoo5 5000 PCI Rev.A1 0900 which belongs to Rolo01 now:
[Blocked Image: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/34054-2/3dfx+Voodoo5+5000+PCI+32MB+Rev_A1+0900+Prototype+Top+aka+Gold+3.JPG]

which looks like this:
[Blocked Image: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/34206-1/Rev_A1.jpg]

And here osckhar's Rev.A0 4899:
[Blocked Image: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/33341-3/3dfx+Voodoo5+5000+PCI+32MB+Rev_A0+4899.jpg]

which looks like this:
[Blocked Image: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/34210-1/Rev_A0+PCI.jpg]

With the 5000 AGP where only one revison variant of exists it's located just infront of the AGP connector like my ex 5000 AGP shows which is now G1nX's card:
[Blocked Image: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/34144-2/3dfx+Voodoo5+5000+AGP+32MB+Rev_A0+3700+Prototype+Top_001.JPG]

which looks like this:
[Blocked Image: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/34202-1/Rev_A0.jpg]

As for the revision on the rear sides of these cards, that isn't hard either all three cards have very clear inprints of their PCB part numbers and just behind that number the revision is shown like the following:

for Rev.A0 AGP:
[Blocked Image: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/34141-2/3dfx+Voodoo5+5000+AGP+32MB+Rev_A0+3700+Prototype+Rear_001.JPG]

The AGP cards have their Revision located on their rear sides just between the rearside of the VESA connector and just above the top SGRAM chip from the main VSA-100 and it's shown like this just under the NFR's which are mostly located near it's PCB part number, so hereby the Revision won't be hard to find on the AGP cards either
[Blocked Image: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/34200-1/Rev_A0+rear.jpg]

The Rev looks like this on the PCI cards:
[Blocked Image: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/34204-1/Rev_A1+Rear.jpg]

As for the PCB dates it's the same as with the Voodoo5 6000's first the week number and then the year number

So if we have a Rev.A1 0900 the card is from week 09 of the year 2000.

The PCB date can befound near the 94V-0 inprint:
[Blocked Image: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/34051-2/3dfx+Voodoo5+5000+PCI+32MB+Rev_A1+0900+Prototype+Rear+aka+Gold+3.JPG]

For Rev.A0 PCI, it's located almost on the exact same spot, but it's more to the left than that of the Rev.A1 PCI V5K's PCB date location:
[Blocked Image: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/34212-1/voodoo5-5000back.jpg]

The PCB date of the Rev.A1 0900 is printed in white like so:
[Blocked Image: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/34195-1/0900+PCB+Date.jpg]

As for the Rev.A0 4899, it looks like this:
[Blocked Image: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/34208-1/4899+PCB+date.jpg]

This card is from week 49 of the year 1999 , making the the oldest known of the Vodooo5 5000 cards.

As for the AGP cards the PCB date is located near the 3dfx logo, just bottom right of it:
[Blocked Image: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/34141-2/3dfx+Voodoo5+5000+AGP+32MB+Rev_A0+3700+Prototype+Rear_001.JPG]

The PCB date looks like this:
[Blocked Image: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/34198-1/3700+PCB+Date.jpg]

The card is from week 37 of the year 2000.

The Voodoo5 5000 Research

Here some information about the 3 Voodoo5 5000 variants, which can be read here:

So some of you may think 3 types of 5000's what in the world? heh well I'll explain that here

3dfx Voodoo5 5000 PCI Rev.A0 4899
[Blocked Image: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/33342-2/3dfx+Voodoo5+5000+PCI+32MB+Rev_A0+4899.jpg]
[Blocked Image: http://www.voodoo3dfx.com/Fotos/V5_5000_pci/Dated_4899.jpg]

The first ever built 3dfx Voodoo5 5000 was a PCI Variant which is a Rev.A0 4899 [week 48 , year 1999]
This card is packed with hand done reworks and it runs cores/mem 100Mhz.

The card's Bios is 1.00a and it boots only in single chip showing that the card only has half of the total 32768KB / 32MB of ram which is 16384KB/16MB.
[Blocked Image: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/33339-1/3dfx+Voodoo5+5000+PCI+32MB+Rev_A0+4899+boot+up.jpg]

osckhar is the only person in the world with this card
The cool thing is that this card used to be from Guru Of 3D since it was tested here:
http://guru3d.com/tech/cebit2000/index3.html

Here some pics of it:
[Blocked Image: http://www.guru3d.com/tech/cebit2000/voodoo5-5000front.jpg]
"The Voodoo 5 above is based on the version A0 VSA-100 silicon, it still has some bugs in it and it can't run on the speed that it's supposed to do. The final Silicon (which is going into mass-production quite soon) will run on 166MHz compared to the 100 MHz A0 version that was presented to me."
[Blocked Image: http://www.guru3d.com/tech/cebit2000/voodoo5-5000back.jpg]

I also found this driver for the Voodoo5 5000 @ Guru Of 3D
http://downloads.guru3d.com/Voodoo-5-5000-…wnload-151.html

3dfx Voodoo5 5000 PCI 32MB Rev.A1 0900
[Blocked Image: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/4260-2/V5_5000.jpg] [Blocked Image: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/4252-2/DSCN0042.jpg]

The Rev.A1 0900 [week 09, year 2000] is the second PCI variant of the Voodoo5 5000 as the first Voodoo5 5000 of year 2000.

It did have a few modifications as it has no more hand done reworks which resulted a much cleaner PCB layout.

It also has some differences from the Capacitors it has compared to the older Rev.A0 4899, the Rev.A0 4899 used the older SMD like Capacitors small flat square ones where as the Rev.A1 0900 used the more modern type round sealed capacitors.

The Rev.A1 0900 runs cores/ram 143Mhz ths faster than it Rev.A0 4899 brother, it also had better SLI support and at boot up it also posts the cards full ram amount of 32768KB/32MB of ram.

after this model there were no other PCI variant made I suppose the entire 5000 project was put aside until week 37 of year 2000 3dfx gave it another go.

There is a review of the Rev.A1 0900 over here at HardCorp from Kyle Bennett himself, only that review is somewhat lost I did find the same review on Tweakers.net with Kyle's comments
http://tweakers.net/nieuws/9753/3d…0-pci-pics.html

3dfx Voodoo5 5000 AGP 32MB Rev.A0 3700
[Blocked Image: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/6874-2/DSC00912.jpg] [Blocked Image: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/6877-2/DSC00914.jpg]

The Rev.A0 3700 is the last known Voodoo5 5000 every made by 3dfx and it's also the first 5000 that uses the AGP connector as this one even uses the AGP x4 connector it runs @ AGP x2 66Mhz Bus with 3.3Volts only.

As you can see 3dfx also redesigned the 5000 AGP's layout hence it uses a much shorter PCB
The reason why 3dfx made this card with an AGP x4 connector is somewhat strange, since they never anticipated to build an AGP x2 model they just went on and made it like this instead which still troubles my mind as that of others.

This card runs croes/ram 166Mhz and has Bios 1.15 it also reports it's full ram capacity @ boot up which is 32768KB / 32MB.
[Blocked Image: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/33337-1/3dfx+Voodoo5+5000+AGP+32MB+Rev_A0+3700+boot+up.jpg]

The Rev.A0 3700 [week 37, year 2000] is also the most stable as well known 5000 out there though that it's such a late variant of the card type it's self, most 5000 keepers have this card, some have it because it is the odd ball of the 3 5000's and some have it because of it's rarity factor amongst other Voodoo5 AGP cards it's a famous collectors item as which goes for any Voodoo5 5000 variant.

There is a review of my first Voodoo5 5000 AGP 32MB Rev.A0 3700 which showed my results of the card in action with SLI and FSAA x4 modes under 98SE NL + UnOfficial Service Pack 2.03NL @ 3dfxzone.it:
http://www.3dfxzone.it/news/puntatore.php?uid=2417

If there are more people that needed to be added just post here or just ring a bell via PM.

Gold Leader · October 13, 2009 at 3:19 AM

The Voodoo5 5000 Research Continued

Finally the day has come and I haven't made pics of it yet, but will post them later this day, here is a screen shot of the card installed
[Blocked Image: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/33397-2/5000+AGP+Returns.jpg]

it's at the least some little evidence that I got it working

So here's some more

Star Wars Episode I: Racer @ 1024 x 768 x16 in Direct3D + FSAA x4 & LOD -4.
[Blocked Image: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/33403-2/Racer++1024+x+768+x32+FSAA+x4.jpg] [Blocked Image: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/33400-2/Racer++1024+x+768+x32+FSAA+x4+b.jpg]

the system setup for testing is the following:

AMD AthlonXP 2700+ Thoroughbred-B
EPoX EP-8K3A+ Ver 1.02
1x 512MB PC3200 CL2 Kingston HyperX @ PC-2700
3dfx Voodoo5 5000 AGP 32MB Rev.A0 3700 with 6ns SEC SGRAM
Creative Audigy2 Platinum

Win98SE NL + UnOfficial Service Pack 2.03NL
AM 2.9 for drivers
3dfx WHQL 1.04.00 for control panel

Just exactly the other way around like I had it last time, just to see if it would make a difference, no lockups so far so that's a new record.

I also found out that the 5000 AGP has some banding when FSAA is enabled in D3D as you might of seen in my racer pics look at the Sky as an example, the 5000 AGP also had a hard time rendering D3D in Racer with as without FSAA I suppose D3D wasn't well supported for the 5000 AGP's.

Without failure I can't agree with since rendering errors like banding for instance isn't some I would accept as perfect image quallity the 5500's and 6000's seem to not have this because they have greater driver supprt and they are more grownup compared to the 5000's.

here another shot of StarWars EpisodeI Racer, as you can see lot's of banding.
[Blocked Image: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/33406-2/Racer++1024+x+768+x32+FSAA+x4+c.jpg]

I did run some tests in UT GOTYE 1999 in Glide and the 5000 accepted reso's til 800 x600 x16 and not higher..which was with no FSAA , FSAA x2 and FSAA x4, another thing it ran very fluid wwith all three different settings , and how do I make good screenshots in UT GOTYE 1999?

About the reso problem I think I found the problem , the drivers I think, as with my review of the 5000 AGP @ 3dfxzone.it I used drivers from 11 -2 - 2000
http://www.3dfxzone.it/news/puntatore.php?uid=2417

drivers from 11 -2 - 2000
[Blocked Image: http://www.3dfxzone.it/public/files/news2417_3.jpg]

the ones I use now: 11-21-2002:

The ones I am using now like 2 years newer so maybe the older driver may fix this, though I am not so sure about this, since it was some time ago that I ran the 5000 AGP.

Well yeaps that was it allrighty, now I have the exact same driver as back then, which is 11-2-2000:
[Blocked Image: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/33409-2/Voodoo5+5000+AGP+Perfect+drivers.jpg]

That lead me to the following conclusion:

Using the AmigaMerlin 2.9 drivers or any other 3rd party driver results instabilities and no higher reso support in UT GOTYE 1999 than 800 x 600 x16.

With the latest 3dfx WHQL drivers from 11 - 02 - 2000 all these problems seem to be resolved.

Though D3D applications still suffer the laggy performance which occurs with as without FSAA modes.

I gotta say, it was a bitch to install as find the correct driver I used about 2 years ago, I even looked up old topics as that review from 3dfxzone.it as the topic which was fixed to it and there I finally got to where I am now.

I only ran Racer and UT GOTYE 1999 as one game at a time.
DXX-Rebirth I have no idea if that will work, because with Win2K Pro + SP4 and the 5500 AGP I used ps47's modified SFFT Alpha 41 driver so since these 3dfx drivers are as raw as the 5000 Prototype it's self I have little doubt that DXX-Rebirth 0.54 will even run at all.

DXX-Rebirth 0.54 @ 1024 768 x 32:
[Blocked Image: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/33412-2/DXX-R+0-54+on+5000+AGP+FSAA+x4.jpg] [Blocked Image: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/33430-2/DXX-R+0-54+5000+Helix.jpg]
[Blocked Image: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/33427-2/DXX-R+0-54+5000+Omega+b.jpg] [Blocked Image: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/33424-2/DXX-R+0-54+5000+Omega+a.jpg] [Blocked Image: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/33415-2/DXX-R+0-54+5000+Fusion+a.jpg]

This oughta give this robot the final blow :lol:
[Blocked Image: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/33418-2/DXX-R+0-54+5000+Fusion+b.jpg] [Blocked Image: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/33421-2/DXX-R+0-54+5000+Fusion+c.jpg]

Well that's DXX-Rebirth 0.54 , and heh that robot got PWNed by my 5000 AGP big time

The system setup for testing is the following:

Firefox

AMD AthlonXP 2700+ Thoroughbred-B
EPoX EP-8K3A+ Ver 1.02
1x 512MB PC3200 CL2 Kingston HyperX @ PC-2700
3dfx Voodoo5 5000 AGP 32MB Rev.A0 3700 with 6ns SEC SGRAM
Creative Audigy2 Platinum

Win98SE NL + UnOfficial Service Pack 2.03NL
3dfx WHQL 1.04.00 for drivers + control panel

No tweaked drivers just the latest raw 3dfx WHQL drivers just awesome to see such a rare alpha board doing such a great job with Rebirth, kinda amzed here
for the people that want to play DXX-Rebirth 0.54 with their Voodoo5 cards under 98SE here is what you will need:

The latest UnOfficial Service Pack:
http://members.chello.nl/h.nekeman1/98spnl/

There you can click the flag of your nationallity and you will be guided to the right site to download the language version of the UnOfficial Service pack you are seeking for.

The Latest 3dfx WHQL 1.04.00 incl 3dfx Tools Control Panel:
http://www.falconfly.de/downloads/voodoo45-10400.zip

DXX Rebirth 0.54, D1X Rebirth = for Descent 1 the other for Descent 2:
http://www.dxx-rebirth.de/?Downloads

To get it going there are some things that needed to be done manually, when starting the game you get to see a small narrow screen with Descent II in it which is about 3 cm in height and stretches out to about three quarters of the screen, just press escape a few times till you get the pilot login screen, there you hit enter then you get to the main menu screen, it may seem strange for the first time and believe me it really is ood , but at the main page try and blindly go to the options , then resolution settings and fist switch to 800 x600 then press spacebar to accept.

after this you get to see more of the screen, and then go to custom and fill in the following:
1024x768 then hit Enter to accept.
Once this has been done manually the screen will ajust it's self to that reso , if you use the 1024x768 reso option from the reso listing, this will not work!

Same instructions go for Win2K & XP with users that have 5500's 6000's as any other type of 3dfx cards from the Voodoo3 1000 and up.

Well people this is all what I have been doing till now, as I made one large post of this important research I have done with the 5000 AGP under 98SE NL + UOSP 2.03 NL and like last time the 5000 works fine under 98SE but under 2K or XP for example it still worked in single chip so that still troubles my mind, it also seems to have trouble with Direct3D applications the banding like in Racer and the laggy rendering performance with or without FSAA.

So I did reveal some new secrets with the 5000 AGP for that part and that it renders XX-Rebirth which uses OpenGL 1.4 code with 3dfx WHQL 1.04.00 , that still amazed me the most.

Well since my 98SE tests are done for D3D, Glide and OpenGL, from here on I will continue with Windows 2000 Professional USA + SP4 & RollUp 1 for SP4 and see If I can get the 5000 installed the proper way as by adding it's ID String to the SFFT Alpha 41 driver it's self :)Well I have used every thinkable way by getting the 5000 AGP to work in 2000, but SLI remains to reject it's proper function.

even installing a 5000 AGP as a 5500 AGP , that did work but I got lots of lines on my screen so I uninstalled the 5000 AGP immediately.

And then I added the 5000 AGP's String to the 3dfx PCI/VEN String List Which is the Subsystem Vendor ID :
[Blocked Image: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/33477-1/5000+AGP+String.jpg]

After doing that it did install as a 5000 AGP but using the number 847 after the ; didn't resolve a perfect image , the lines apeared again which I didn't get when using 98SE.

So after this I pulled this research to a halt, and decided to work with the 5500 AGP until somebody else comes to a better idea, I really do not know where to look at or what to do after all this work, some replies may help

Anyways here are the photo's of the 5000 AGP , better late than never

[Blocked Image: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/34143-2/3dfx+Voodoo5+5000+AGP+32MB+Rev_A0+3700+Prototype+Top_001.JPG] [Blocked Image: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/34140-2/3dfx+Voodoo5+5000+AGP+32MB+Rev_A0+3700+Prototype+Rear_001.JPG]

There we go, that's the V5K List restored and the entire research, this is the great advantage of backups

Okay the 5000 PCI has arrived today, his name is Gold 2, so as promised, here's some pics:
[Blocked Image: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/34149-2/5000+PCI+Top+b.JPG] [Blocked Image: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/34146-2/5000+PCI+bac+b.JPG] [Blocked Image: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/34065-2/Gold+3_sTag.JPG]

And the info + research I already did with it:

The card boots with Bios 1.00b and only detects 16384KB of the 32768KB of ram haha :lol:
[Blocked Image: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/34155-2/Gold+3_s+Bios.JPG]

But it seems to run very stable in 2D under a very unexpected OS for a 5000 AGP, Win2K Pro + SP4 anyone?
With SFFT 1.5, I used the latest 3dfx tools for 2K/XP and Q3A detects a Voodoo3 series heh, but FSAA x4 seems to be enabled because I can't see no jaggies, okay 3dfx tools is installed and yes FSAA x4 was still enabled heh all other FSAA modes work fine as well so here some screenshots of the drivers for starters:
[Blocked Image: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/34116-2/FSAA+x4+5000+PCI+Win2K.jpg]

I will post some Q3A shots as well so stay tuned

so here are the Quake III Arena screen shots @ 1024 x 768 x16 + FSAA x4 medium Settings in OpenGL API:
[Blocked Image: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/34119-2/V5K+PCI+Q3A+a.jpg] [Blocked Image: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/34122-2/V5K+PCI+Q3A+b.jpg] [Blocked Image: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/34125-2/V5K+PCI+Q3A+c.jpg]

But when during testing this run with the 5000 PCI and Q3A I did clearly see the blood as thick as red rain only the sscreenshots they did seem to have lost the blood glotches you'd normally see:
[Blocked Image: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/34128-2/V5K+PCI+Q3A+d.jpg] [Blocked Image: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/34131-2/V5K+PCI+Q3A+e.jpg] [Blocked Image: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/34134-2/V5K+PCI+Q3A+f.jpg]

Q3A did crash after 8 minutes of gameplay I suspect it's thelack of driver support hence there was no broken SLI this time as reported with the V5K PCI Rev.A0 4899 & V5K AGP Rev.A0 3700.

So here are the Descent3 1.5 + PyroMania 1.5 screenshots with FSAA x4 but in Glide API max settings:
[Blocked Image: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/34183-2/Descent3+on+5000+PCI+Win2KPro+_+SP4+a.jpg] [Blocked Image: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/34186-2/Descent3+on+5000+PCI+Win2KPro+_+SP4+b.jpg]
[Blocked Image: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/34189-2/Descent3+on+5000+PCI+Win2KPro+_+SP4+c.jpg] [Blocked Image: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/34192-2/Descent3+on+5000+PCI+Win2KPro+_+SP4+d.jpg]

Even that there was no banding, no glitches but just superb image quallity & gameplay this game also crashed the system after 7 or 8 minutes of gameplay so I guess it's the support again with the drivers under Win2K.

But hey it's all not that bad since this is the first 5000 variant that does show us that it has no Broken SLI under Win2K which is an NTFS OS So this is a leap ahead as know hows go for the V5K'ers out there , I used this setup to run these games under 2000 Pro + SP4

Firefox

AthlonXP 2700+
EPoX EP-8K3A+
3x 512MB PC3200 CL2 Kingston Hyper X @ PC2700
3dfx Voodoo5 5000 PCI 32MB Rev.A1 0900 with PC Bios 1.00b
Creative SB Audigy 2 Platinum with the latest Win2K/XP drivers.

SFFT 1.5 as drivers
latest WHQL 3dfx Tools for Win2K/XP
Windows 2000 Professional USA + Service Pack 4 + RollUp 1 for Service Pack 4
Direct9.0c Agust 2007.

[Blocked Image: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/34179-2/V5K+PCI+in+Blue-Leader+e.JPG] [Blocked Image: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/34170-2/V5K+PCI+in+Blue-Leader+b.JPG]

So after this there is alot more to do heh this 5000 PCI shall run DXX_Rebirth under 2000 also and after this I will move on to 98SE because I expect it to crash after several minutes of game play, but the graphics as image quality is very stunning as that FSAA x4 & SLI are working still amazes me alot.
:shock: :shock: :shock:

So that was the Windows 2000 part now here's 98SE and this is what makes it so interesting the Rev.A1 0900 does nor have a cores/mem speed of 100Mhz Like the Rev.A0 4899 has nor has it have the much higher 166mhz speed of the Rev.A0 3700 AGP variant, it sits actually just in between these two speeds as does the card's revision so yeah this makes sense
[Blocked Image: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/34215-2/5000+PCI+Rev_A1+0900+specs.jpg]

There you have it Bios version is indeed 1.00b and it's cores/mem speed is 143Mhz the most speculated as rumored speed of the 5000 PCI Rev.A1 0900 at least we know finally have the evidience to this long asked as rumored mystery And oh the Clock says 04:52 AM , this should give you an idea ion how long I have been tinkering with the 5000 PCI and how addictive this REALLY is :lol: man this is so much fun!

The following tests that will occur under 98SE will be the following games:

Under Win2K:
Quake III Arena 1.32
Descent3 1.5+ Pyromania 1.5

Under 98SE:
Quake III Arena 1.32
StarWars Episode I: Pod Racer 1.0
MonsterTruck Madness 2

and a few more runners up.

So Stay tuned for the Win98SE tests I have to admit the 5000 PCI system runs a lot more stable now since the drivers I used detected the 5000 PCI with it's normal string so i guess this was still troubling Win2K.

The System setup I am using under 98SE is the following:

Firefox

AthlonXP 2700+
EPoX EP-8K3A+
1x 512MB PC3200 CL2 Kingston Hyper X @ PC2700
3dfx Voodoo5 5000 PCI 32MB Rev.A1 0900 with PC Bios 1.00b
Creative SB Audigy 2 Platinum with the latest http://Win9.xx/Me drivers.

3dfx 1.04.01 Beta for the 5000 PCI with the latest 3dfx tools of 21 - 11 -2000
DX9.0c August 2007.
[Blocked Image: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/34176-2/V5K+PCI+in+Blue-Leader+d.JPG] [Blocked Image: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/34173-2/V5K+PCI+in+Blue-Leader+c.JPG]

Well I have to say I had to change the drivers to 1.04.00 WHQL hence stability issues 3dfx tools is the same I used with the 5000 AGP for stable runs under 98SE 11 / 02 / 2000

So here's StarWars Episode I: Pod Racer results and I have to conclude no stuttery gameplay as I had with the 5000 AGP thus the 5000 PCI only runs @ 143Mhz and it has the 33Mhz PCI bus which makes it alot slower heh really when using FSAA x4 @ 1024 x 768 x16 the gameplay was laggy but at a stable fps rate of 22fps.

With FSAA x2 I got a neat 41 fps so that explains the 5000 PCI's problem as the lagginess goes. it's the cores/mem speed which ade the influences to the lagginess when FSAA x4 was enabled, the 5000 AGP had very opdd effect when you read back it didn't matter if it ran in Single chip dual chip without FSAA as with FSAA x2 or x4 , sometimes Racer ran fluid and at busy spots it froze for a second and aftert that the lagginess was so intense that it wasn't playable.

So here are my results so far I have to admit the 5000 PCI is far more stable than the 5000 AGP and the odd thing it's 20 weeks older too, I wonder why heh.

First pic is with FSAA x4 the second is with FSAA x2:
[Blocked Image: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/34221-2/Racer+on+5000+PCI+FSAA+x4.jpg] [Blocked Image: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/34218-2/Racer+on+5000+PCI+FSAA+x2.jpg]

There was some little banding but not as bad as with the 5000 AGP, soon more pics of Pod Racer I will keep you all updated.

I ran Monstertruck Madness 2 & Quake3 also only I couldn't find a way to make screenshots but these two ran perfectly with FSAA x2 and x4 settings as the graphical detail goes about , only these crashed after 27 minutes of game play, which was 15 minutes of MonsterTruck Madness 2 and 12 minutes of Quake III Arena heh after that crash lol.

So During the game play I was like mope 98SE isn't it either, then it became all clear it must of been the card how it reacted and so on, even that it has 5 very small reworks I think @ 3dfx they were experiencing the same as they were trying to fix the card with small hand done wired reworks , I think this

Well after the lockups appeared under 98SE I was ended up thoughtless on what to do next, so I PM'ed osckhar about the situation and he advised me to use 2K with the latest 3dfx WHQL driver and to downclock the 5000 PCI to 100Mhz with V.Control heh

So I installed Win2K pro and installed that precise driver and then V.Control and O couldn't get the card lower than 130Mhz and after using this setting the system crashed immediately so I suppose the rev.A1 0900 brought new problems with it heh not saying that every Rev.A1 0900 is like this because there have been reports of stable runs.

So from this point this was my Voodoo5 5000 research I hope you all have enjoyed it as how I have been progressing on with these rare Voodoo5 5000 cards

At least I found out the true speed and bios'es of these two fantastic prototypes they both have stability problems but that the 5000PCI works under Win2K with SLI was something Id' just never expect

Well I hope you all like the new layout, I have fused all the sub projects lists researches and such as one major subject, I hope you will enjoy it and I had to redo this because I could no re-edit the old lists and info if info had to be added in the future.

If there are members that have a card of the 5000 or 6000 series and is not listed? Just feel free to post here so I can add you asap! People can just post freely in this thread, I'm all over it So feel free to ask questions from this point

GrandAdmiralThrawn · October 13, 2009 at 8:17 AM

Can I reply freely here? I'm not sure if I should, but I would just like to say again: Very good work. I like how well organized and structured the list is, and still it's compact, easy to look something up. Oh, and those little flag icons besides the Owners names are just great, still love 'em. Attention to detail!

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Kann ich hier frei antworten? Ich weiß nicht ob ich sollte, aber ich wollte nur noch sagen: Sehr gute Arbeit! gefällt mir, wie gut die Liste strukturiert ist, und trotzdem kompakt, und einfach um darin zu suchen. Ah jo, und ich stehe auf die kleinen Flaggenicons neben den Namen der Besitzer. Mit Liebe zum Detail!

Gold Leader · October 13, 2009 at 8:53 AM

Thanx man, it was a great pleasure and experience very worth doing.

Yeah well it was my honor to do so mate, and It was along night but as you may have read my edits even from the first post LOL
This post has been edited 6 times, last edit by "Gold Leader" (Today, 5:58am)

And 4th post:
This post has been edited 6 times, last edit by "Gold Leader" (Today, 5:43am)

The 5th post was editted this morning during this post and yes I only slept less than 3 hours haha I'm like have a heart for your home team and you might as well finnish it anyways because it won't take long for you to get outa bed again to go to the doctors place for some yearly anti desease vaccine rofl

Yes I told my self that rofl

I was like when you do something big do it right all the way so after mytrans atlantic flight with FSX from Princess Juliana International, Philipsburg, Sint Maarten to Schiphol International, Amsterdam, The Netherlands, a 7 hour real time flight with my Thai Airways B744-ER, I started to do these lists for VA but then my best way possible making it one UBER MICRO thread and yeah I am happy with the results myself.

Some places the know hows are soemwhat over clear but this is needed for new V5K or V6K members, since all cards do have a different layout as the Revision and the PCB date go I made these extra indetails, showing a photo of each revision, hereby photo's are worth more than a 1000 words my friends.

Backfire · October 13, 2009 at 11:23 AM

Hi.

Very good work, for procure all the details. It's a repecatabe effort. Many Thanks.

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Sehr gute Arbeit für das Beibringen der ganzen Einzelheiten. Es ist ein beachtlicher Aufwand, vielen Dank.

@GAT
Ob man sich mal die Arbeit macht das alles in's Deutsche zu übesetzen? Das wäre doch ein Knaller.

So long...

Gold Leader · October 13, 2009 at 11:34 AM

Thanx Backfire I'm like feel free to do a German version of it , all you need now is a good translator haha.

I'd say only translate the Know hows and the research parts since translating the lists won't be that useful, except the motherboard list might be an option

GrandAdmiralThrawn · October 13, 2009 at 11:44 AM

Just Backfire & Gold Leader: I'm like "Do it right or leave it be!". I started to translate already, word for word, sentence for sentence, but this'll take time... this thing is nothing short of massive... Also i started with full color / bold / size Tags included, same post for post separation as Gold Leader did himself, so all that is necessary would be to Copy > Paste > Post!

Manual translation only! Of course I will not post this myself, so I will simply forward this to Gold Leader as soon as I believe it to be complete. Also I will forward it to Backfire for Error Checking & Correction, so, Gold Leader, I propose you await his ok before post.

All agree? If not, let me know!

Edit: Whoops, PM from Backfire, damn, he's fast, let's study.

Gold Leader · October 13, 2009 at 11:47 AM

Hey man you seem to know what to do LMAO go ahead man !

for such things I am no dufficult bloke Make mah day maannn!!

So I'm like --> HELS PELS REBELS HELS!

GrandAdmiralThrawn · October 13, 2009 at 12:01 PM

Seems as if we're gonna split the load here, I'm synchronizing with Backfire atm. So far it seems like this: Your list thread here is reference material, so the german stuff is just like a mirror, kind of at least.

I proposed to Backfire a Post by Post seperated workflow. Let's see if he agrees. If it goes as I think, then it'll be like this:

You (Gold Leader) change something in one of your posts, you notify me and Backfire => The appropriate german part get's updated soon thereafter, depending on who the german part is assigned to! So if the Part is assigned to Backfire, he's gonna change it and so forth..

Nice and easy.. Let's see what Backfire says to all this...

Gold Leader · October 13, 2009 at 12:04 PM

Quote from GrandAdmiralThrawn

Seems as if we're gonna split the load here, I'm synchronizing with Backfire atm. So far it seems like this: Your list thread here is reference material, so the german stuff is just like a mirror, kind of at least.

I proposed to Backfire a Post by Post seperated workflow. Let's see if he agrees. If it goes as I think, then it'll be like this:

You (Gold Leader) change something in one of your posts, you notify me and Backfire => The appropriate german part get's updated soon thereafter, depending on who the german part is assigned to! So if the Part is assigned to Backfire, he's gonna change it and so forth..

Nice and easy.. Let's see what Backfire says to all this...

Yoda Quotes:
Exellent idea man, this is, agree I do, yess, like it, I do

So it's a yes on my side

Here is how I got to the idea of bringing this idea back but also by improving it.

It all began last night after I arrved @ Schiphol International, Amsterdam with my Thai Airways B744-ER., it was 02:02 when I turned off my engines and then I previewed the fly path and yeah that was all good, so then I went to VA and started to tinker with idea's.

So really last night I had these massive brainstorms for this entire task, probably the most exciting ones too.

Since it was so quiet on 3dfx based topics, it was more of the same in many things and such, so I wanted to do something with them lists, okay maybe the news they behold isn't new, but! Them Know How threads were just very short ones filled with some text so hereby I decided to go to full details and bring the entire thing back to life and hopefully bring 3dfx Interactive back to where it should be placed, here with us deeply from within.

After all this work itwas almost 05:30AM as me re-edit's could state and I was like well that's done, though we still need new idea's, ya know to keep us motivated with this rare hobby, I do feel somewhat questioned on how long people will even know what 3dfx is all about in like 35 to 40 years from now...

But if we keep comming up with very cool projects, researches and other things, well; we do have a greater chance of keeping 3dfx alive and in a way of using our cards and doing the games there were realy meant to be played, the Glide games, maybe some more idea's for lists of other prototypes?

I'm like go ahead really, you know you can always ask me because I will do it, it's that I have the time for such things as being 100% disabled. Actually a list of each card made by 3dfx would be really a massive challenge, thing is what about the card or cards we know so little much about?

Such a card is the famed 3dfx Voodoo4-2 4000 AGP 32MB SDRAM Rev.A1 4100 heh the revision is correct how ever the PCB date is just a guess.

Anyways just ring a bell if any guidance is needed to make a list of any sort, I will gladly aid you people out.

Kaitou · October 13, 2009 at 2:43 PM

I would love to start the german translation right away if you agree people?

Backfire · October 13, 2009 at 3:02 PM

Warte damit bitte.

Wir wollen da noch was klären. Und das läuft außerhalb des Forums.

.

Kaitou · October 13, 2009 at 3:03 PM

Öh ok?

Backfire · October 13, 2009 at 8:21 PM

Wenn Du magst leg los, Kaitou.

Ich bin raus aus der Übersetzungs Idee.
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GrandAdmiralThrawn · October 13, 2009 at 8:28 PM

Bin leider ebenfalls raus aus der Geschichte.

Gold Leader · October 14, 2009 at 2:54 AM

Go ahead Kaitou

New infor added about U509 and U508 on Rev.A0 0700 and Rev.A1 1500 cards and the U509 chip on the Rev.A2 2600 cards, I also added the U509 info for the Rev.A3 3400 / Rev.A 3700 and Rev.A 3900, I used a Rev.A 3 3400 photo to show the U509's location since these three have the same rear layout.

hutzeputz · October 14, 2009 at 11:02 PM

very nice work Obi !!
more please !!!

i wait german translation from Kaitou...