Stealth 2001 - My i850 Renovation Project & Sveta SMP 2003 - My i860 Fun Project!

Gold Leader · August 6, 2013 at 2:18 AM

Hi All

Do you all remember when the 2000 Mhz Pentium4 hit the market and what a big rage it gave the crowd, for just being the first ever released 2000Mhz CPU, even though it's overall performance wasn't much faster than the AMD Athlon Thunderbird 1400Mhz rofl, it only shined in Q3A based games this is where it's Rambus Memory interface and its Netburst Tech really showed it's true native performance, also it came with SSE2, only back then SSE2 was not really supported, although these days it might get along a lot better than back then.

But overall the 1.40Ghz Athlon T-Bird was the king over this CPU, but for the ones that really loved Intel this was Intel's best at the time. And since there are quite a lot of Intel users here, I thought to share some awesome history of back then as I bought this mainly for Quake III Arena, it was the best you could get for just that game rofl.

So it all began yesterday, after having a nice BBQ at my sister's place, she gave me my old gaming system from 2001 back and it came with these parts:

Intel Pentium 4 2.00Ghz Willamette Socket 423 256KB L2, 400Mhz FSB
ASUS P4T Rev. 1.07 0135 With Intel i850 Chipset & AGP Pro 50 x4
2x 256MB PC-800-45 ECC Rambus Samsung Original
2x 128MB PC-800-45 Non-ECC Rambus Samsung Original
HIS ATi Radeon 9550 AGP 256MB 128Bit DDR
Creative Sound Blaster Live! 5.1
3-Com 3C905C TX-M 10/1000MBit Ethernet Card
Sweex 5 Ports USB 2.0 PCI Card, 4 External, 1 Internal
Enermax Modu 82 525 Watt PSU
A-Open H600-B ATX Case

My plan is to clean this thoroughly and make it look like new again as when I built it back in 2001, which will have this name & layout:

Stealth 2001

Intel Pentium 4 2.00Ghz Willamette Socket 423m 256KB L2, 400Mhz FSB
ASUS P4T Rev. 1.07 0135 With Intel i850 Chipset & AGP Pro 50 x4
2x 256MB PC-800-45 ECC Rambus Samsung Original
2x 128MB PC-800-45 Non-ECC Rambus Samsung Original
Gainward GeForce3 AGP 64MB Golden Sample Rev.A 0131 with ViVo.
Creative Sound Blaster Live! 5.1
3-Com 3C905C TX-M 10/1000MBit Ethernet Card
Sweex 5 Ports USB 2.0 PCI Card, 4 External, 1 Internal
Enermax Modu 82 525 Watt PSU
A-Open H600-B ATX Case
So here some pics of my progress

Stealth 2001 undergoing disassembly
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Cards removed
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Case dismantled, CPU, CPU HSF & Ram still in place
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ASUS P4T CPU, CPU HSF, Cards & Ram removed
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Intel Pentium 4 Willamette 2.00 Ghz & 1.70 Ghz Socket 423 CPU's top
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This was the first 2000Mhz CPU ever to be made for the consumer's market, It used Net Burst Technology to which only performed best in games that used idTech 3 engine also known as the be famed Q3A Engine.

Intel Pentium 4 Willamette 2.00 Ghz Left & 1.70 Ghz Right Socket 423 CPU's rear
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P4 2.00Ghz Right & 1.70 Ghz left S423 CPU's flipped mode
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CPU repasted
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CPU repasted closeup
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Stealth 2001's parts cleaned top
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Note the Gainward GeForce3 AGP Golden Sample, I will replace the Radeon 9550 AGP 256MB< as this was the same exact GeForce3 I had in this system, back in the day I bought it with the P4 1.70Ghz CPU, which I later upgraded to the 2.00Ghz CPU about 9 months later in December 2001.

Stealth 2001's cleaned parts rear
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Stealth 2001's cards cleaned top
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ASUS P4T Rev 1.07 0135 top
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ASUS P4T Rev 1.07 0135 rear
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Note the lovely Golden PCB color, This Motherboard is the first i850 based motherboard released for the consumers market, it was made in 2001 week 35 aka 0135 and it was made in Yang An, Taiwan.

ASUS P4T Rev 1.07 0135 headshot
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That big blue CPU HSF is the Thermaltake Indigo Orb for Socket 423, it cools the the 2Ghz Monster under it's hood [sm=001_cool.gif]

Cleaning Case side panel, dust visible
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Here I was cleaning the side panel, this is how I cleaned the entire case after taking it 100% apart, with hot water and anti bacterial soap.

Rear Case fan before treatment
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Rear Case fan after treatment
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And yes those little scrubs of dirt I did remove them after I made the shot before putting it back in the case haha

Rear case fan placement before treatment
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Rear case fan placement after treatment
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Stealth 2001's Mobo, CPU, CPU HSF & Cards in place after treatment
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Stealth 2001's Mobo, CPU, CPU HSF & Cards in place after treatment side
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Gainward GF3 GS & Indigo Orb Closeup
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IO Drives mounted
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Lian Li Ventilated Slot brackets placed
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Stealth 2001 Renovation Complete Front
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Stealth 2001 Renovation Complete! Side
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Stealth 2001 Renovation Complete! Side
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And there you have it, it's all done ! xDDD All I need to do now is a first bootup, which should gop well, I will run some old games from 1999 to 2003, see how this P4 does [sm=001_smile.gif]
The only 3D Mark I really liked was Mad Onion's 3D Mark 2001 SE, so I do plan on running that one on this 2Ghz P4
Stay Tuned for more in action pics and 1080p video's! [sm=001_tt1.gif][sm=001_smile.gif]

Turrican · August 6, 2013 at 4:59 AM

Nice System.

Gold Leader · August 6, 2013 at 5:20 AM

Many thanks Turrican, I also updated the main posts, all the pics are there now
All I need to do now is give it a fresh installation of Windows XP Professional x86 UK + SP3 and from there I will install games like Quake III Arena, DXX-Rebirth, UT 2003 and X-Wing Versus Tie-Fighter + Balance of Power.

If any of you here at VA have any requests on what I should run or test with this P4, feel free to post it!

Tweakstone · August 6, 2013 at 8:52 AM

First of all: Awsome cleaning job!!
Man, this system looks like new now Nice to see someone else having a socket 423 system running
I also have one myself, with the slowest P4 ever made (the 1,3GHz decelerator ). I love the Indogo orb on there! Sadly it's next to impossible to find good coolers nowadays, I finally mounted a Socket 603 Xeon cooler onto it

Must have been an unbelievably expensive setup back in the days - do you remember what you spent on this?

m14radu · August 6, 2013 at 9:38 AM

Very nice and clean system Obi !

Gold Leader · August 6, 2013 at 9:40 AM

It was all in Dutch Guilders I think, the Euro came later didn't it?I cant really remember, it cost me a limb or two haha, hm I think about 2500 Dutch Guilders something like that, the CPU I bought first was that 1.70Ghz P4 S423, which cost me about 569 Guilders. The Ram I also bought first was 2x PC-711 Samsung Original but when I installed that I found out that the mobo only supported PC-600and PC-800 only, so the PC-711 which I bought was not supported lol.

So it ran with a P4 1700Mhz and 2x 128MB PC-711 @ PC-600 for about 3 years or so, then it went to my mum in about 2004, in 2006 I bought the P4 2000Mhz for like 15 USD off ebay, but still it is tech from 2001 and back then it cost about 1300 Guilders rofl. so about 700 a 800 euro?, oh well a shitload anyways.

After the P2 2000 was bought, about two years from that, which was 2008 it then went to my sister's place for her youngest daughter and now about five years later it came back to me in a very poor, dirty and messed up state, so I cleaned it thoroughly and gave it's old life back in a very cleaned and polished up state

I know that the P4 2000 wasn't the best CPU in 2001 , that was actually the AMD K7 Athlon Thunderbird 1400C. The only things that ran greatest on the P4 2000 were games that took use of the idtech 3 engine aka Quake III Arena, Jedi knight II, Jedi Outcase, Jedi Knight Jedi Academy, X-Wing Alliance and so on and apps like Lame MP3 encoding and other things I can't really recall.

P4's were slow compared to them mighty Athlons but they dd have their charms still, I went for a P4 since I was part of the Computer Hobby Club in Oude Tonge, The Netherlands and we played lots of Q3A & Call of Duty which both used the same engine and that ran best on a P4 with Rambus memory.

Tweakstone · August 6, 2013 at 10:24 AM

I think it must have cost you a lot more..
The GF3 was like 1000DM / ~500€ when it came out (standard models, the GS must have been 1100 to 1200 I think). I'm not sure about the CPU prices back then, but the P4 sure wasn't cheap. Neither was the RDRAM
Then add PSU, HDD, GBit NIC (did you have this in 2001 already? Must have been expensive, too), SB Live etc.
I believe the system cost you more than you want to make yourself believe today

€: ah, you payed ~570 Guilders for the P4 - overread that

Gold Leader · August 6, 2013 at 11:01 AM

Yeah that was for the 1.70Ghz P4, I got the 2.00Ghz P4 many years later for liek 15 USD off ebay China rofl! But everything else was very expensive. The Gainward GeForce3 Golden Sample was one of the most expensive parts, it cost me 569 Dutch Guilders which was about 1000 DMark, so I think that is about right
It could be I am worgh about the pricing, it is very hard for me to remember, I had a concussion about 2 years ago and I have forgotten a lot of things heh.

GrandAdmiralThrawn · August 6, 2013 at 11:14 AM

It does sound about right though.

Nice to see that system come live, especially since I never had Willamettes on S423, rare stuff. Back in those days I hated Netbursts just like pretty much anybody else did, so I went down the messy Tualatin route to beat the crap out of those S423 systems. It was only later - on S478 - that I started to really like Rambus systems, the memory just feels like some real quality shit from the touch alone.

But the Quake III / id Tech 3 engine does sure love Netbursts!

Tweakstone · August 6, 2013 at 11:17 AM

Ah ok, I didn't know that Dutch Guilders were worth that much

Gold Leader · August 6, 2013 at 9:50 PM

Great news it passed first bootup!!! YESSS!!!!

Chosen_One · August 6, 2013 at 10:03 PM

Quote from Tweakstone

Ah ok, I didn't know that Dutch Guilders were worth that much

It wasn't AFAIK. About 1:1,1...
If I remember right I added 10% to the guilder.

btw: Nice rig. Somehow I love the s423 as much as I hate it. I don't know why. Just cool hardware

Gold Leader · August 7, 2013 at 2:44 AM

Quote from Chosen_One

Quote from Tweakstone

Ah ok, I didn't know that Dutch Guilders were worth that much

It wasn't AFAIK. About 1:1,1...
If I remember right I added 10% to the guilder.

btw: Nice rig. Somehow I love the s423 as much as I hate it. I don't know why. Just cool hardware

Many thanks Chosen One

Well I gotta admit it's so slow it makes me wanna punch some kittens Especially when on the internet that CPU is 100% constantly hahaha
It just makes me laugh so much Well when Quake III Arena is installed I will probably love it more, as running games with id Tech3, well that is why I actually had it back in 2001
it's doing some windows updates now, Service Pack 3 for WinXP Pro x86 has just been installed and now it's installing 122 updates rofl!

CryptonNite · August 7, 2013 at 5:05 PM

Nice system!

Gold Leader · August 7, 2013 at 8:53 PM

Quote from CryptonNite

Nice system!

Thanks mate, just ran some Q3A Ver 1.32 on it today @ 1600 x 1200 x32 with FSAA x4 & AF x8 in max details it does around 40 to 53 fps rofl, I will also test ithout FSAA and see how that goes. For this system I also bought a Leadtek GeForce4 Ti4600 Ultra with My ViVo, this NV25 should boost it a little bit more than the NV20 I am using now

Gold Leader · November 20, 2013 at 9:16 PM

So here new specs:

Stealth 2001

Intel Pentium 4 2.00Ghz Willamette Socket 423m 256KB L2, 400Mhz FSB
ASUS P4T Rev. 1.07 0135 With Intel i850 Chipset & AGP Pro 50 x4
2x 256MB PC-800-45 ECC Rambus Samsung Original
2x 128MB PC-800-45 Non-ECC Rambus Samsung Original
Leadtek WinFast A250 TD Ultra AGP 128MB 128Bit DDR Rev.A 0208 [Year 2002, Week 08]
Creative Sound Blaster Live! 5.1
3-Com 3C905C TX-M 10/1000MBit Ethernet Card
Sweex 5 Ports USB 2.0 PCI Card, 4 External, 1 Internal
Enermax Modu 82 525 Watt PSU
A-Open H600-B ATX Case

And here it is then with it's Leadtek GeForce Ti-4600 AGP 128MB 128Bit DDR
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Here a closeup of the Ti-4600 in place:
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And a Closeup of that rare Thermaltake Indigo Orb, the system ram and VGA card layout and that beautiful golden coloured PCB of the ASUS P4T, the worlds first Intel i850 motherboard for the consumers market:
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Here pics of that lovely Leadtek geForce4 Ti-4600, which they call the following:

Leadtek WinFast A250 TD Ultra AGP 128MB 128Bit DDR Rev.A 0208 [Year 2002, Week 08]
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A250 is from the GPU's code name NV25
Their GeForce FX 5800 Ultra was named A300, their 5900 Ultra was named A350 as their 5950 Ultra was named A380, all from NV30, NV35 & NV38

Top view of Box & Card:
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Rear view of Box & Card:
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Closeup of the Ti-4600 from top view
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Closeup of the Ti-4600 from rear view
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headshot:
Closeup of the Ti-4600 from to view
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top angled:
Closeup of the Ti-4600 from to view
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rear angled:
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Quake III Arena flies on this system xDDDD

Gold Leader · February 25, 2017 at 1:18 AM

Hey all

Welp no AMD Ryzen for me, got something much cooler to work on at the moment!
So today I bought an upgrade for this golden oldie!!! YUS!

Which are the following parts

4x Samsung Original 512MB PC800-40 ECC RDRAM
( MR18R162GEG0-CM8 )

But I seek the following:

ASUS/NEC 5 Port USB 2.0 PCI Card
Intel Server Pro 1000 Ethernet Adapter
LS120 Super Floppy Drive

If anyone can help me find these parts that would be grand

Here some history & specs of this system, as this P4 means quite a lot to me, after the data I found on it as well... Some old memories regained.

Stealth 2001

Intel Pentium4 2.00Ghz Willamette, 256KB L2, Socket 423
ASUS P4T Intel i850 Chipset for Socket 423
2x 128MB PC_800-45 non ECC + 2x 256MB PC-800-45 ECC Rambus RDRAM
Leadtek GeForce WinFast A250 Ultra TD AGP 128MB 128Bit DDR
Creative Labs Sound Blaster LIve 5.1
Western Digital 60GB ATA 133 7200 rpm HDD
Sony 3.5" Floppy Disk Drive
Enermax 525Watt PSU
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So if anyone can help me out with these parts that would be grand

The P4 2Ghz I bought for it around 2006 for 5 USD from Ebay Hong Hong. I kept the P4 1.7Ghz in my display cabinet.
My main goal is to rebuild this system to it's max upgradable possible setup without the use of Power Leap CPU Socket convertors and such other things and reuse it for retro Lan Parties and such fun activities
This system I used to train with for 4 hours per day on when I used to play in a Quake II, Quake III & Descent 3 League at my Computer Club, we would have matches every week :cool:
So this is what I did before I started to collect 3dfx VGA cards, also this is something I really wanted to share with you guys

The only real reason I went for the P4 was because of its SSE2 CPU instruction set which it had in advantage over everything else.
That with a Gainward GeForce Golden Sample Power Pack 64MB 128Bit DDR + ViVo made it a powerful setup. Later in 2002 I upgraded to the Leadtek GeForce4 Ti-4600 Ultra

For everything else the P4 S423 2Ghz performs like a P3-S 1.4Ghz, that is only if SSE2 was not supported so yeah a P4 2Ghz was pretty much crap in most other applications & games.
But things like Lame MP3 Encoding, did go quite well, so hey it's not as bad as some tired to make it, right

The bottom line is that I love this rare retro build and I hope to enjoy it for many years to come
To me retro hardware tends to be far less lifeless than new gen hardware.
So I kind of made a major U-turn and I plan on working more on these golden oldies, gotta get the best out of them while they still work without any issues.

Gold Leader · February 26, 2017 at 10:48 PM

Well I do have some upgrades upcoming for this classic, which are the following parts

4x 512MB PC-800-40ns ECC Rambus RDRAM from Samsung Original, wasn't cheap, but it's the best and the max the ASUS P4T can handle:
http://www.ebay.ie/itm/3614207550…K%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
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This is what I got from an old friend from 2CPU.com:

Mitsubishi Electronics MF357G-3111 MAL LS120 Super Floppy Drive:
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5x 120MB LS120 Floppy Disks New never used:
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5 Port USB 2.0 PCI Card + Front panel; 2 External + 3 for front panel
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So with all that all I seek now is an Intel Pro 1000 MT Server Adapter in 32Bit PCI format

MadYoshi · February 27, 2017 at 6:05 PM

By reading your thread, i remembered, that i have an ASUS P4T, too The first P4 was so slow

When i have time, i think, i will build an simular system as yours. The Indigo Orb is so nice, unfortunately i can't find CPU Cooler for the 423 sockel, which looks great as the Indigo Orb. Have you any idea, mabey a full copper Cooler?

Gold Leader · February 27, 2017 at 9:49 PM

Quote from MadYoshi

By reading your thread, i remembered, that i have an ASUS P4T, too The first P4 was so slow

When i have time, i think, i will build an similar system as yours. The Indigo Orb is so nice, unfortunately i can't find CPU Cooler for the 423 socket, which looks great as the Indigo Orb. Have you any idea, maybe a full copper Cooler?

Well as games go the P4 S423 2Ghz is not that d really as long SSE2 is supported it did quite well, without SSE2 it was as fast as a P3-S 1400 or Athlon Thunderbird 1400C, as games go, synthetic it was less great.
I may know someone with some Indigo Orbs I can ask around for ya, they are the best of all S423 coolers
Lemmie get a look around, I will let you know as soon as I know more also my friend from 2CPU.com donated me his Intel Pro/1000MT Desktop Adapter So fabs
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my goal is to make my system as maxed out upgraded as possible by using native parts only no convertors and such things , this is a lot of fun to be honest
2CPU.com Community has been my home since May 08, 2001, cool to have such support from though