Sveta 2002 is back as my 3dfx Retro Gaming Workstation!

  • I think it's not that easy anymore. Yes, you can just take a Thoroughbred XY and see what happens. Personally, I also believe that the Thoroughbred B series are run on the board. But in the long term? Avenger, you said yourself that you and Bier already had problems with the board and a Barton. Who says this can not happen with a T-bred B?

    Nice board, i love it. AMD761 is very fast. But this board has no AMD Athlon XP Barton support. My 8K7A+ died after i used a A-XP-M 2800+ (Barton, L2 Cache = 512KB) with it.

    Bier.jpg had the same problem for a long time ago.

    The mosfets become very hot and desoldering them self:

    I remember that the issue was discussed 2001/2002 very hot. I rummaged through my old hardware magazines and found what they were looking for. PC Games Hardware published a compatibility list in its issue of 07/2003. (Kompatibilitaetsliste.pdf)

    The list shows that only T-breds with the CPUID 680 are supported by the EpoX Board and this is the T-bred "A". If I transfer this now to an Athlon 2400+, then only one may be compatible: AXDA2400DKV3C with stepping code AQXDA (Athlon-XP 2400+.pdf, Source: http://www.cpu-world.com)

    Obi, if you're running a T-bred on the board, you have to make sure that at least the Bios 2002/09/23 is flashed. In the "Release Note" is noted: - Added support for Thoroughbred CPUs

    8K7A2529.BIN (2002/05/29)

    Release Note

    *FINAL*

    8K7A2923.BIN (2002/09/23)

    Release Note

    *BETA*
    8K7A3214.BIN (2003/02/14)

    Release Note

    *LATEST BETA*

    I would like to apologize if I panic unnecessarily here but I would not run a T-bred B on the board for a long time. The health of the old hardware is very important to me.

    The safest way would be to grab an Athlon XP 2200+, in which the Stepping ends with "A".

    http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/K7/AMD-At…A2200DKV3C.html

  • Well then I Choose to run the AXP 2200+ 1.8Ghz is plenty for my 3dfx gaming needs anyway and if that makes my board live longer I shall just do that instead.

    I found the right one MadYoshi I DM'ed you in Discord of it


    It has this name & stepping:
    AXDA2200DKV3C - RIUGA

    I'll just stick with that then. 1.8Ghz is plenty for my 3dfx gaming needs anyway.

    As for the Bios of my board the seller did apply a screenshot of that seems like some Beta Bios it has


    Seems like the Beta Bios from 2002, should be good for T-Bred A then :)

  • I also use a Athlon XP 2200+ with the Thoroughbred B, overclocked to 2GHz and undervolted from 1,65V to 1,55V. I also have the first 130 nm Thoroughbred A 2200+. The B version is much better in terms of heat and overclocking!

  • MadYoshi

    I can't guarantee that Thoroghbred B CPUs don't destroy this board of a long time. But i used a 2400+ T-Bred B in my UT Benchsession [Link] for many hours without problems. I messured the mosfests with my IR thermometer and every temperatures were fine (<40°C).

    But you are right, after your detail information, the T-Bred A should be the safest CPU for this board.

    Die Pixel beschleunigt, die Kanten gefixt, lang leben die Karten von 3dfx! :spitze:

    Einmal editiert, zuletzt von Avenger (17. August 2019 um 14:13)

  • Yea Lifespan is important for me so I thank everyone for participating, this is new to me as I always worked with VIA Apollo KT333 and an AXP 2700+ T-Bred B, the AMD AM761 is new to me, but it's often good to try out something else.

    The CPU I found on Ebay the AXP 2200+ T-Bred A Is the CPU I will use, since I do plan to use this system for long term use.

    As for the AXP-M 2800+ Barton chip if anyone wants it DM me :)

    Thanks again guys means a lot, VA is by far the best 3dfx community in the EU, you guys just know what you are talking about , packed with knowledge here, which is very resourceful 8)

    Many thanks,

    Co_Owner of x-3dfx, Obi Wan KenobiV6K / Willem B.

  • Hey all :)

    Today the EPoX EP-8K7A+ arrived, looks like it's new and never used or it's been cleaned and recapped here the photo's <3

    Top view as you see all parts are like new state!

    Rear view, no damaged parts, everything is like new or actually well preserved or renovated< a true golden find this one!

    EPoX EP-8K7A+ Rev 1.1 0128-3 top view:

    Headshot:

    EP-8K7A+ PCB Date 0128-3 = Year 2001 - Week 28 - Day 3:

    Debug code display:

    CPU V-Core table:

    VIA sound chip & Socketed Award Bios Chip:

    Belkin NEC 5 port USB 2,0 PCI Card top:

    It's Bluuueee :topmodel:

    Rear view:

    ZyXEL WLan PCI Card 11g top:

    Rear:

    Here the CPU I won't be using but it came with the package anyway, so I'll post it for the heck of it xD
    AMD AthlonXP-M 2800+ Barton 2133Mhz top:

    Rear:

    Here the parts I will be using in this system the W-Lan Card won't be used but I will use my good old classic 3-Com PCI lan card:

    3-Com 3C905C-TC-M PCI Ethernet Adapter top:

    Rear:

    Plextor PlexWriter PX-48/24/48A CD-RW Drive front:

    Rear:

    Label info:

    Mitsubishi Electronics Australia F400 LS-120 Super Disk Drive:

    More to come soon :)

    2 Mal editiert, zuletzt von Gold Leader (22. August 2019 um 15:40)

  • Be careful! The seller modified the CPU with short wires in the socket. You should remove them all and go safe that no wire cause a short circuit.

    Nice Board, have fun! :spitze:

    Die Pixel beschleunigt, die Kanten gefixt, lang leben die Karten von 3dfx! :spitze:

    Einmal editiert, zuletzt von Avenger (22. August 2019 um 17:39)

  • A tweezer is also good.

    It is important that after remove them, no wire cause a short circuit anywhere on the board!

    Edit: You should don't loose the wires.

    Die Pixel beschleunigt, die Kanten gefixt, lang leben die Karten von 3dfx! :spitze:

    Einmal editiert, zuletzt von Avenger (22. August 2019 um 17:39)

  • No matter, turn the board over the top and shake it a little bit. Hope that all wires go away.

    Die Pixel beschleunigt, die Kanten gefixt, lang leben die Karten von 3dfx! :spitze:

  • That wasn't a joke from the developers. The "X" means, if DIP 5 is switch off, don't care whether the other DIP switches are on or off.

    In this situation, the cpu will set the multiplier.

    Die Pixel beschleunigt, die Kanten gefixt, lang leben die Karten von 3dfx! :spitze:

  • Well here's some very good news my VA friends <3

    MAjor thanks to Microbits for helping me out get the V3 3500 TV AGP 16MB I will pay him back once I get my payment in November 24 this year I even told him no need to do this he goes like oh I already did it I was waaaaat xD :topmodel:

    So here she is then my first boxed 3dfx card in what how many years? since 2009-ish for that part okay I did have a boxed X-24 at some point but yea this is very home coming :)
    https://www.ebay.ie/itm/3dfx-voodo…ox/264310307595?

    Here the photo's I got from the seller <3

    Here the actual original price tag this thing is an absolute GEM <3
    549 D-Mark which was around 280,69 Euro back in the day.. hmm 69 :hre:lel :topmodel:


    And here the card it's as clean as it can be , so well cared for too <3

    And here that big blue IO Pod/Cableand hay it matches the color of my Belkin USB 2.0 PCI Card haha xD
    it's Bluuuuuueeee Yaaaaaas Dooow


    So Frostora my blue feathered Novaraptor waves haaai <3

    Reeeeeeee xD

  • I know the pin mod only with 5 wires. Maybe you lost 2 wires by removing the cpu? Doesn't matter, main thing the socket and the board is clean.

    Die Pixel beschleunigt, die Kanten gefixt, lang leben die Karten von 3dfx! :spitze: