Snow White - the New AGP 2x version of the Voodoo 5 6000 by Anthony! With the heart managed by the technology invented by 3dfx over 21 years ago.

  • Work draft under construction


    Hello everybody,

    i open this Thread which will be dedicated to Anthony's future creation.


    Published, on the developer page, the first images of the next version of the new video card that is being designed in the AGP 2x version.



    For comparison, I added the image of the new agp1x video card to the pci 33/66mhz version.

    I amicably called "SnowWhite6K", but the video card doesn't have a real name.

    it is 2mm longer than the original v56k version.

    The contrast of the white with the black components is really impactful. It would be nice to have black smd capacitors too, who knows if they are on the market.

    The VGA pass-through is gone and I understand why, this is the primary video card.

    Who knows why with this contrast of colors the installed components seem very few...;)




    Update 13/10/2021

    The video card really got the name Snow White and the new box was made:


      


    The graphics are inspired by the short film made by the designers of Betty Boop, in 1933, dedicated to Snow White:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFBx3qYGxL8


    And was made by Batyra, Hardware/3dfx Collector and excellent Designer:

    https://collection.batyra.pl/graphics/3dfx



    I start from this Iterview with the Developer and Enthusiast of the 3dfx World, released on March 4, 2021:



    Special Unified Xcelerator 6000 Original Drawings Prototype



    Hi Anthony and welcome to the community.

    It has been a while since our last meeting.

    It was May 8, 2020 and you were struggling with the construction of the 2D video module for Quantum3D x24.

    The interview from that time can be read in the Thread dedicated to the: King Shaman 20MB & MGV2020 4MB 2D Video Module Review


    What work do you currently do and what impact has this period of restrictions had on your professional, private life and on your creations?


    • Currently I'm doing work which i don't like much. I'm assembling some cards. That strange period doesn't impact my activities much. Most annoying part is unpredictable shipping time in some cases and raising prices. Really, not much to complain about.


    In the previous interview, I asked you about your future projects and you answered with a metaphor, which corresponded to a "No Comment". Did you know that, with your latest creation, you were facing a great success or a great failure?


    • I expected minor success, maybe partly working board. But reality exceeded my expectations, everything went fine from the first attempt. Only minor errors in strapping configurations I've encountered. I got lucky with my big cards (King Shamans and this one), every project causes no troubles for me. Bigger is better.


    With your latest creation, which you dubbed Napalm 6000 S.U.X. , thanks to the 3dfx voodoo5 6000 Agp 128MB offered for your research by our friend, you have performed a non-destructive Reverse Engineering, even if the video card was hopelessly not working.

    Maybe because you had one of the latest Original Prototypes created by 3dfx in your hands?


    • Name for that project will be Special Unified Xcelerator 6000, at least for the first production batch. There will be a special box with a custom art. Actually, i had a chance to get my hands on a fully functional V56K card, what helped a lot. I did some measurements with an oscilloscope, which were impossible on a non-working card. V56K has some tricky solutions, it was pretty hard for me to figure out some of these.


    With this unofficial Remake prototype of the 3dfx voodoo5 6000 Agp 128MB, which I would define as “your personal interpretation” of how this video card should be for you, you have completely changed, once again, the layout of the original pcb and components.

    Can you describe the difficulties you have encountered, the improvements you have made and obtained with this release of yours?


    • Layout of that card is close to the original V56K, except the power supply unit and a VGA switcher. No way to make something different, even if i had such intentions. Components are the same too, except these parts, once again. No significant difficulties i have encountered while PCB routing, all went quite smooth and in a pleasant way, no thrilling stories to tell. I think it's because i did other VSA based projects before and got some background and experience. Evident improvement is the existence of mounting holes for coolers, maybe a power unit too. Also this card has less banding effect rather than original V56K, you know infamous SLI banding which is very well visible in helicopter test in 3DMark2000.


    Was the Pci Rework, performed by Hank Semenec, ex 3dfx Engineer, to make the original 3dfx Voodoo5 6000 Agp 128MB prototypes working, also necessary on your latest creation and implemented in the Napalm 6K scheme?


    • I’ve made PCI clocks routing in a proper way, i believe it’ll work fine. Anyway, some tests are still in progress and we’ll see upcoming results.


    In this last period, you will be inundated with compliments for your new creation.

    But, at the same time, you also received a lot of criticism. In your opinion, why is part of the community and 3dfx fans against these creations of yours?


    • I didn’t see a lot of criticism. To make a criticism you should familiarize yourself with a subject, make some tests or something like that, at least to read or to watch such results from other people. Otherwise it should be called a "mere words".


    Now that you have almost reached the top of the pyramid, do you believe that your attention will shift elsewhere or are you going to see "how it works", just for personal knowledge or to learn useful new information, the Rampage series and the Daytona series, the latter two. chimeras ever made by 3dfx?


    • I still have a couple of projects in development. Not so exciting as a 4 chip board thou. Daytona sounds interesting, no chips available unfortunately. Rampage is a useless thing, there’s even no proper drivers, as far as i know.


    In your opinion, communities like Voodooalert.de and 3dfxzone.it, which for more than 20 years "support" at its own expense, as you did with your projects, this technology created over 20 years ago by the late 3dfx, what impact they have had on your training and in expanding your knowledge?


    • I like activities on such forums which took place about 10-15 years ago. A lot of interesting things, benchmarking, mods, new drivers, etc. I began with modding in 2014, i believe. But these days interest is fading. Maybe my projects will help a little bit to warm up some interest to 3dfx creations. Personally, I'd like to see some software development.


    Anthony, I don't ask you one last question, but I leave you this last part for your spontaneous statements.


    • Will continue to develop my latest project. Have plans to make an AGP version too. Have plans to make some fancy package. Still a lot of work to offer a good product and things are moving slower than i expected. Hope, eventually, all puzzles will be solved and people will be pleased.
    • Big thanks to all non-indifferent and enthusiastic people.


    Anthony, we Congratulate you for your achievement and for the results achieved with your creations.

    Now, with your creations, you are an integral part of the "3dfx Post Mortem Story".

    I hope this is not the last time we find ourselves talking about this wonderful technology, because we would like to discuss it for a long time to come.


    Special thanks

    We thank Anthony (zx-c64) for being with us and for granting us this new interview.

    Thanks to the Voodooalert Community and all its Collaborators for letting me publish this new Thread.


    Francesco D.V. (ciacara)

  • ciacara72

    Changed the title of the thread from “Looking forward to Anthony's New Creations with the heart managed by the technology invented by 3dfx over 20 years ago” to “New AGP 2x version of the Voodoo 5 6000 by Anthony! With the heart managed by the technology invented by 3dfx over 21 years ago.”.
  • Langsam wirds langweilig...

    Hi CryptonNite , Do you mean the threads I create or Anthony's creations?

    However, in both cases, I am sorry not to have your consent.

    Well, there is nothing new to it. Thats all. These cards are great. I had the idea for RE'ing the 6k a long time ago, but it was said by some users that this is not possible and "Heissluft". Someone made it real, so in the end I was right that it is possible. He did a great job.

    „Wir leben in einer Welt, wo Ehrlichkeit als Schwäche zählt und die Lügner auf Händen getragen werden.“

  • a green PCB would be better yea,love this new design tho, mainly the improvements made to the power management section as well as the Dual Bios, the 66Mhz AGP Bus will bring this card to it's full potential, I am glad this choice was finally made, I also saw a Universal PCI variant was made, always good to see improvements being made :)

    But as the Universal PCI version goes why not make a PCI-X 100 a 133Mhz variant unless this would never work? I mean AGP x4 is like PCI 32 Bit @ 133Mhz right? Just wondering tho :)


    Also will the AGP versions have 128MB but 256MB liveries as well?

    Thanks for the good news ciacara72 <3 :)
    S2 Sedan


    Afaik all V5 AGP cards ran at AGP x1 setting and never electrical at AGP x1 ;)
    AGP x4 mods were applied to some 5500's but not sure if a 6000 could deal with this as well, even the V5 5500 AGP x4 cards ran with a 66Mhz Bus thus AGP x1 speeds only.

    But it would be interesting if that can be achieved, yea, good point.

  • Ok CryptonNite , message received, thanks for the explanation. :)


    S2 Sedan & Gold Leader

    For questions about the color, the agp4x version, the 256mb on board, I could answer you but not in detail.

    I would prefer developer Anthony to give you the right directions and answers. Maybe we can also find solutions by talking about it here, where it all started, at least in part. :)

  • All good bud, we respect and understand that fully :) <3


    CryptonNite
    Hmm I remember that thread I too believed it was possible, many just didn't want to put effort in to it, Anthony proved us that it could be done after all and I am glad this opportunity did become a reality, even I myself was so wrong on reacting against it, it's actually amazing, then again I regret all what I did back then and glad I was able to make peace with my sick mind and these awesome people here.

  • All good bud, we respect and understand that fully :) <3


    CryptonNite
    Hmm I remember that thread I too believed it was possible, many just didn't want to put effort in to it, Anthony proved us that it could be done after all and I am glad this opportunity did become a reality, even I myself was so wrong on reacting against it, it's actually amazing, then again I regret all what I did back then and glad I was able to make peace with my sick mind and these awesome people here.

    Hm...

    I don't mind anymore.

    I've repaired my card this year and it works fine again. Thanks to oskhar, who replaced both VSA100.

    „Wir leben in einer Welt, wo Ehrlichkeit als Schwäche zählt und die Lügner auf Händen getragen werden.“

  • Oh that's nice man, are they VSA-100-220's or 320's?

    If running stock speeds the 220's should be fine, but a core voltage of 2.9 Volts seems to be better than the current 3.1 Volts they normally have, as Anthony explained me, , this can also help lengthen the lifespan of our Naplam based cards.

  • The card has SAMSUNG RAM, so overclocking is not good. Both VSAs are 220.

    I think, the card died from heavy modifications and overclocking.

    The card is now nice and clean again.

    „Wir leben in einer Welt, wo Ehrlichkeit als Schwäche zählt und die Lügner auf Händen getragen werden.“

  • The card has SAMSUNG RAM, so overclocking is not good. Both VSAs are 220.

    I think, the card died from heavy modifications and overclocking.

    The card is now nice and clean again.

    that is awesome tho congrats for getting your card alive again, V5 are nice things :) Still tho the V3 3500 will always be my long time favorite V3's image quality is pretty amazing and also ideal for older dos games as it supports the older 8 bit color mode very well from what I heard about.

  • The newest project for AGP is fantastic!

    Since the official developer page is on Facebook, which I'm not a member of and never will be, will we get informed here when the AGP version is available so that people can order it or does Anthony run an independent website, too?

    Meine Voodoo-Karten:
    Voodoo5 5500 AGP
    2x Creative 3D Blaster Banshee AGP
    2x Gainward Voodoo Dragon 3000

    Diamond Monster 3D Rev E