Bunte V5 6k Nachbauten Sammelanfrage bis 12.12.2021 (ehmals: Roter V5 6000 Nachbau von Antony Sammelanfrage.)

On my EPOX 8K3A+ I removed the middle RAM retention tab as I also had the collision issue with the chip on the back of the board. No big deal though as the RAM is snug and the computer doesn't get thrown across the room too often so it's secure enough for me. I can always re-install the tab if I want someday, but I don't see any reason I would ever use the motherboard for anything other than my Strange God so that was my solution.

BTW - LOVING the card, thank you so much Anthony for making my dream come true!

probably i should consider usage of single oscillator and clock distribution logic as on original v56k to avoid appearance of such collisions.

Is there more jitter when using four crystal oscillators or does the VSA100 automatically compensate for the working clock frequency?

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In other words:

Is there some logic to synchronize the chips when using dedicated crystal clock generators, because every quartz crystal has its unique frequency it oscillates?

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probably i should consider usage of single oscillator and clock distribution logic as on original v56k to avoid appearance of such collisions.

Or use the layout placement 3dfx used to place these things, it seems they didn't now have the ones you used, here ALT-F13's old card; I used Snow White as comparison:

Maybe an idea to place them on the top side of the PCB instead of the rear, making the card more flat as it comes to the rear side?
Other option stick to how 3dfx did their card y using their method instead, not sure if this is a doable method tho, just a thought

maybe it needs 5 crystals to run stable... I think Anthony knows what he do

only the position could be a bit better.

I dont want to remove the clamp on every mainboard

change the position of the crystal is easy and safe (if you have some solder skills)

Red rot chains?

As far as I know this dot chains show up if the GPU's are working close to their clock limits.

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Is there more jitter when using four crystal oscillators or does the VSA100 automatically compensate for the working clock frequency?

Edit:

In other words:

Is there some logic to synchronize the chips when using dedicated crystal clock generators, because every quartz crystal has its unique frequency it oscillates?

vsa chips synchronize via other clocks. doesn't matter what to use as 14.318mhz source, resonator or oscillator or clock generator.

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Maybe an idea to place them on the top side of the PCB instead of the rear, making the card more flat as it comes to the rear side?

or this solution is doable too.

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As far as I know this dot chains show up if the GPU's are working close to their clock limits.

probably it's a kind of silicon error as both 220 and 320 chips have the same behaviour at similar clocks. i saw it only once when the 320 chip doesn't expose these at 200mhz. usually donut demo shows dots at 185+mhz.

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maybe it needs 5 crystals to run stable... I think Anthony knows what he do

only the position could be a bit better.

I dont want to remove the clamp on every mainboard

change the position of the crystal is easy and safe (if you have some solder skills)

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Oh yea of course, glad you are able to witness the Voodoo5 6000 like I once did, for NTFS AmigaMerlin 3.1 R1 will allow you to use 1600x1200x16 + FSAA x8 btw this is the only driver that allows this for what I can recall and none of the 98SE drivers can do this either.

UT looked sick with this setting, frame rate was bad but yea for nice image quality shots of intense FSAA it's fun to mess around with.
Hereby I thank omega_supreme for finding this out, you can find his thread here at 3dfxzone.it:
https://www.3dfxzone.it/enboard/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=963

Mal eine Frage.

Was kostet so ein Nachbau? Chips muss man selbst sponsoren oder wie läuft das ab? Sehe es zum ersten Mal.

Die Karten laufen dann auch mit der originalen Leistung?

Gruß

Ja ist quasi gleich, allerdings 256MB und jumperbar auf 128MB meine ich

verbaut werden VSA220

Preis liegt bei 1500 $US inkl.

Wenn Du selber GPUs anlieferst bekommst Du noch etwas Rabatt lohnt aber nur wenn Du 320er liegen hast.

Gibt jetzt (oder demnächst) wohl auch im 2x2 Design

Schon geil, aber auch schön teuer. Bin da nicht mehr so tief drin, als dass ich das dafür ausgeben könnte. Viel Spaß damit!

Viel Arbeit und geringe Stückzahlen...

Wenn Du 1000 Stück kaufst, bekommst Du sicher einen ordentlichen Preisnachlass. so ist das ja quasie Einzellanfertigung...

Kannst ja auch Wunsch PCB Farbe usw... also ich finde das schon cool

Und kauf eine 4080 für das Geld, die ist in 5 Jahren nur noch 250€ Wert.... also ob sich das dann mehr lohnt

ich denke mal soeine Repro 6000 kauft man sich 1x und hat dann die nächsten 20 Jahre Freude daran, und selbst dann wird mal im Resale noch ein paar Euros mehr bekommen. Da spar ich lieber bei meinem aktuellen PC, weil da geht der Wert doch immer nur Rapide in eine Richtung...

In 20 Jahren ist die 4080 dann das Zehnfache wert.

Meine erste V5 5500 AGP, gekauft vom User prof.ah über Ebay, hat mich damals um die 25 € gekostet, die jetzige hat 300 € insgesamt gekostet...

ich glaube nicht das die Inflation soweit gallopiert das man für ne 20 Jahre alte Karte 16000€ wird berappen müssen...

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hello. price is the same $1.5k. the standard color is black. it's available but shipping is very slow now.

It is available???! Okay, I'm still in, what do I do next?

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ich glaube nicht das die Inflation soweit gallopiert das man für ne 20 Jahre alte Karte 16000€ wird berappen müssen...

Richtig lesen, du musst!

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hello. price is the same $1.5k. the standard color is black. it's available but shipping is very slow now.

It is available???! Okay, I'm still in, what do I do next?

I'm also still in for an AGP Card

Best Regards

Marius aka lao-koon

big troubles with money transfer. only the crypto is a 100% working solution but it adds hasslees for many buyers.