Beiträge von ketfri8002

    Okay, after this long time, i'll sadly have to admit, this was just an april fools joke...

    Ah, okay this one was kinda obvious XD

    Have seen quite a lot of theories about how it was made, some saying it just was an 3D model, and others that i have molested Voodoo2 cards in greatest Jason Voorhees style and glued them together. But no, not really.
    Hornestly stolen a lot of SMD's from defective cards and also a fully functional Voodoo3 2000 as a ran out of time. (Still possible to reball it back on) but all the EDO memory and lot of other SMD's came from ebay.
    The PCB itself was made in Paint.NET by merge scans of a Voodoo2 PCB together, anf got it professionally printed on both sides of a 1,5mm alu-plate.

    The benchmark BungaholioMarks where ofocurse also homemade and ran in software. As you can see on the pictures have two lasers ben used to simulate the flashing diodes on the board. The picture show my brother adjusting the DMX program for the lasers.

    Hope you enjoyed it as mutch as i did XD

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    Haha, so it was you who bought it, saw you became online on the rare ebay items thread after i posted, and it was gone short after XD
    Congrants!

    Yeah, I wanted to have a Daytona forever, so thanks for posting that link. I didn't have to think about it for very long.

    Yes i understand :)
    Make sure to do some tests! Would be nice to compare it to a Voodoo 4500 PCI and Voodoo3 3000 PCI. :thumbup:

    Also another detail i only noticed now, you say you use 700mhz processors... If thats true, then do you have a Rev2 of the 440GX+.
    Rumors go that the black brick only works on the original board shipped from Quantum3D (721242-006 and 721242-007) and those where all Rev:1 boards that only supported Katmai processors (and you use coppermine)
    Personally i think it should work on any 440GX+ chipset, but have not comfirmed it yet. Since i have the later green brick that pretty mutch works on anything.

    Also, i have now confirmed that all jumpers was disabled. But my AA modules is late version's as it dont have the same jumper options. And for example mine can work without a swaplock cable/bridge. (As Gary also have confirmed). But don't try it on yours!

    Also would like to see your Q3D control panel.

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    Just saw one of your older threads, and realize you both have v0007 and v0008, so try and change back to your v0007 instead of the v0008 that i assume your using for this.
    (I also both have v0007 and v0008, but use v0007 to keep it original with the default 500mhz processors)

    Im not home now to check, but if i remember right was all jumpers disabeled, but had tried a lot around, and since it entered brick mode when i replaced the PSU, Do i not know if the jumpers had anything to say anyway.
    When it's in brick mode it will show "Obisidian2 MgM 96" have got mine to show that, but have defective green 200SBI's so still wont show any image.

    Try to replace your PSU, I can see it's black and have sata cables, so it's proberly a crap PSU with a shitty 5v rail. The black brick should be able to run on a high quality unit with 35amp on the 5v. Had used a high-quality FSP Group unit with 30amp on 5v and didnt work.
    But i have used 40 and 50amp PC Power & Cooling unit's that worked.

    SM81C256K16CJ-8

    inquire chinese suppliers. afaik they have SM81C256K16CJ-8

    Yes, but keep in mine some voltage regulators have same product number,
    and it's everywhere. Have to make sure it's from Silicon Magic. :)

    check if you find a voodoo2 with the same memories as donor :)
    (instead of searching for an expensive & defective 200SBI board )

    Yes, but the only Voodoo2 card that also uses those 125mhz EDO is some from Diamond, and those cards are even more rare than 200SBI boards. Think i'll buy those 6 edos, thats maybe enough to compensate for the defective ones. All tho i kinda hope to find a larger stuck. :)

    Have got this new Mercury System that i bought as defective in hope of repairing it, seller told there might be a defective 200SBI - He was right :)

    About the issue.

    I got it home and powered it on, and the brick didn't send any signal. Not even 2D image was passed through. Monitor just entered power saving after a while. Tried to replace the AA module with a spare one i had lying around and didn't.

    After that i decided to test the 200SBI cards one by one, and 3 out of 4 of them was defective with lot of small artifacts on the textures, the color inside the small artifacts changed pretty much for each frame. Pretty sure it's bad VRAM. But shouldn't the brick then at least show a picture with lots of

    artifacts, instead of nothing at all, beside not pass any 2D. When i tested the 200SBI cards individually, did all the cards bypass the 2D image just fine.

    Maybe the brick not showing any image can be related to the Power Supply, which a earlier owner have replaced. Would maybe guess that the PSU isn't providing enough power, but i have measured the voltage and ther's 5.05v on the 5v rail, but can't of course see if ther's any ripple, have to get my own Oscilloscope now that i moved out from my parents house.
    Was gonna replace the FSP Group PSU it with a PC Power & Cooling unit that had 40 amp's on the 5v. but it couldn't work with the motherboard somehow. Fist i thought that it was the board, but then i tried with a identical 440GX+ board but same issue, so it maybe just don't like ATX2+ units.

    How to repair?

    First of all, until i get a new PSU (a PC Power & Cooling - Turbo Cool 450, with 50amp's of justice on the 5v - Also the original PSU) will i just forget about the testing the brick, wich is somehow pointless to speculate about right now, and instead see if i can repair the 200SBI cards. But I'm having a few trouble with finding the right 40pin Edo SOJ's for them.

    On the original EDO's thers written this:

    Silicon MAGIC 125MHz
    AA9931 SM81C256K16CJ-8
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    So have to find some 512kb 256x16 SOJ's on 5 volt and as close to 125mhz/8ns as possible.

    Will have to buy a real rework station, not only my silly heatgun that only was ment for removing paint and stuff.

    Solution 1 - "Lucky and lazy"

    Find some SOJ's as close to 8ns as possible and replace all of them, then will i have to buy another defective 200SBI board and replace them on that one aswell as i have 4 matched cards. "Luckly" this is a VERY common issue, and know quote a lot of people with defective boards. In fact the guy i bought my spare AA module and riser cards from, had all 4 of his 200SBI boards defective.

    Solution 2 - "Frankenstein"

    Use original working SOJ's from one of the defective boards, and replace the defective ones on the two other defective boards. This will require a LOT of extra work, and big chance to course even more damage to the boards, since i'll have to replace them in smaller bundles.

    The smartest way will be to buy a extra defective 200SBI board, and then unmount ALL the SOJ's from ALL the 4 defective boards, and then buy a SOJ tester (Or maybe mount some 40pin sockets on a Voodoo2 board, that would be nice) and then test all the SOJ's and mount the working ones on the 3 of the boards.

    Then will i end up with one "unusable board" unless i replace it with some slower SOJ's.
    Only problem here is how many days (or more like hours) the cards will last after the repair, since these SOJ's have a short lifespan. But it's a cheap solution.

    Final words.

    If solution 1 is possible, then will i like that one the most to have a future proof setup that i can use without being worried about limited lifespan. And on the same time have a LOT of spare EDO's that can be tested and used for projects and future repairs on other boards. Within 10 years may the rest of the 200SBI boards also die, and it would be nice to find and buy as many replacement SOJ's while they are around.

    But on the other side, will it also be nice to have a 100% original system, that will coast me a additional defective 200SBI board, that i later can use for testing after market SOJ's.

    Would also be nice if you can recommend a good rework station with some industry known nozzle standard thingy, so i can replace them later on when might get more into the fight with BGA, dont really need a heat-bed, but it will of course not hurt if one was included. And NO, using a toaster isn't really a good idea. :bonk: Budget max 400euro for the rework station, see a fev cheap ones on ebay, but dont want one ther's too cheap. Else it will be pointless for me to buy a new one.

    Any input will be highly appriciated! Fell free to come with some alternative solutions, or good sites for finding SMD's :)

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    Video:

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    Amazing Oskhar!
    This is a dream come true! :respekt:

    Do you have a list of prices for each feature or do you give every card the full package?

    He have this info on eBay

    MOD1.- COST 115€ - FAST TSOP MEMORY
    MOD2.- COST 115€ - NEW VSA100 3RD REVISION - 355-0026-320 part number.
    MOD3.- COST 150€ - UPGRADE 64@128Mb
    MOD3a.- COST 50€ - JUMPER FOR SETTING MEMORY SIZE ON FLY.
    MOD4.- COST 25€ - VCore VSA100 3V insted of stock voltage (Overclocking).
    MOD5.-
    COST 85€ - Include an AGP RISER moded and built by me and rework V5 for getting compatibility under 1.5V AGP.
    MOD6.-
    COST 40€ - Only mod V5 AGP for compatibility 1.5V AGP. This price not include the agp riser- perhaps you already own one.


    To clear things out, the x4 agp mod is NOT mine, mine is the PCI board with 8-128mb jumper option and rev 320 chips.

    Very nice features Osckhar! But i would really love to have a extension PCB made as the card is full length and with mount for extension rails. On the PCB could there be DC/DC step down regulators and a lot of nice caps. And some vires from that into the the place where the Caps is in the V-out on thevoodoo5 PCB, and it will be completly seperated from the onboard transistors.

    Dont think it will give any benafit, but bought a small step down converter on ebay that could power the defective 8264, and stil lhold 2.9v for 8 VSA chips! So it's just taking th emultimeter and figure that circuit out, should be no problem and then solder them onto the extender PCB.

    My dad and i once worked at a company called LedLight Components in Denmark, making LED-light controllers. They are cable of making custom PCB's and pretty sure we can get our hands on it for cheap. All tho my job only was to mount some of the SMD components that the SMT couldnt handle.
    But compared to how simple and small stat circuit is, would be overkill to do, and using DIY or just a regular prototype PCB will be the way.

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    Have got a 200SB from one of my friends in Denmark, the card had a MVG 2000 2D module on it. Finds it fasinating that there now in theory is 3 videocards in a single slot! :topmodel:

    Ofcourse was the first thing i did, was to creating a back fan for it, not the best, but it also only took hour to make, cuz i couldnt wait to test it! :bonk:

    The reason i didnt use a centrifugal fan was that i originally wanted to make a replica of the original fan, but ended up liking the gray metal style, and decided make it different.
    My in the future make a new one identical to the original one from Quantum3D.

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