Beiträge von Gold Leader

    Heh interesting that the CPU can sometime limit the V3 3K PCI, but as being this happens rarely, it looks as if the V3 is being the bottleneck here and there, maybe trying to obtain a Dual Pentium !!!-S TUalatin 1400Mhz and combining the system with PC-1066 Rambus and an i840 chipset based 2CPU motherboard from Supermicro might give some better results, thereby placing the V3 in a PCI-64 slot @ 66Mhz Bus and 32Bit mode, this way the V3 might even perform better than an AGP variant, this also free's you from the need of a Motherboard with an AGP x2 slot, just an idea for anext project.

    But yeah it was interesting to see that the P4-M 1600Mhzdid give the best minimum FPS with a V3 3K PCI, odd really, dunno what could explain that behavior. :gadget:

    Normally a P3-1200 beats a P4 1600 mostly in all grounds, as max FPS goes a P3-M 800Mhz almost gets the highest score, this probably shows the bottleneck oof a PCI VGA card running at half bus which is 33Mhz instead of 66Mhz, which it does support, so a PCI64 Bit Slot @ 66Mhz Bus and 32Bit mode could fix this and give the V3 3K PCI a greater run from this bottleneck.

    heheh yeah that V3 3500C was a good find, I bought one some 4 months ago, the good news is that this same seller is where I bought mine from, that being he ships to The Netherlands, which also should make shipping to germany possible :)

    Just giving you lads the heads up, and oh here's my gallery of the card :)
    http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/v/3dfx…/album85/3500C/

    Click the V3 3500Cs headshot photo to enter ;) This is my favourite Voodoo3 made, they are quite easy to obtain if you give yourself the time to seek for one and if you make a good find, you can grab them for a steal also, as being a Vodooo3 3500 but with a TV-Out, they also make it easier to use, that big blue dongle shich the normal Voodoo3 3500 TV AGP's have is no longer in harms way 8)

    The card arrived in top notch quallity, as if it was hardly used, as an update on what the status are of these cards this seller sells, I bought this card in reminder of VA Member Voodoo³ 8)

    Ah well here are some 3dfx auctions to show :)

    Semi Sealed 5500 AGP USA
    http://cgi.ebay.com/3dfx-VooDoo5-V…=item3cb1e855b4
    [Blockierte Grafik: http://i.ebayimg.com/09/!B6YlKoQEGk…tNu6)w~~_12.JPG]

    3dfx Voodoo3 3500C 16MB + TV-Out
    http://cgi.ebay.com/147286-001-147…=item27b06841ee
    [Blockierte Grafik: http://i.ebayimg.com/12/!Bdjrm-!!2k…QWWUew~~_12.JPG]

    3dfx Voodoo3 1000C AGP 16MB:
    http://cgi.ebay.com/Compaq-155138-…=item3f04224c2f
    [Blockierte Grafik: http://i.ebayimg.com/19/!B6By-QgBGk…4)iq)hw~~_3.JPG]

    @ exxe

    It seemed I kinda flipped to the wrong part of the page, meh sorry for making a minor mistake ... Although I am sure you made plenty mistakes yourself, no one is perfect in my world :whistling:

    As for this auction...
    http://cgi.ebay.ie/3dfx-Prototyp-…=item4153dbfc19

    Please list it as a FAKE 3dfx Prototype, so others won't get fooled ... Dont money rape people by selling fake stuff under an incorrect name, that is agaisnt ebay rules.

    @ Edmund,

    Well I will start spreading these auctions for ya, just to create some publicity for ya bud, as any x-3dfx'er would do ;)

    Most revolutionary VGA's well I have a few yer.

    1.) 3Dfx SST-1 Voodoo Graphics is one of the best as revolutions go, when this his the market it stood number 1 for quite a long time about 2 years, untill it's famous successor the SST-2 Voodoo2 came around
    2.) 3Dfx SST-2 Voodoo2 is my number two of the most revolutionary VGA card of all times
    3.) Matrox Millenium G400 MAX best 2D/3D card before end of 3dfx and as being the world's first Dual head VGA card with Dual 360Mhz Ramdacs, it was also the only card that had EMBM for it's time
    4.) ATi Radeon 9700 Pro with the R300 VPU, this being the most revolutionary 2D/3D card on the plannet, even being the numero uno of all revolutions, it held the number 01 place of the best VGA card on the marker against 4 NVIDIA generations, Ti4600, FX 5800 Ultra, FX 5900 Ultra and FX 5950 Ultra, with FSAA & AF maxed out the 9700 Pro crushed the NVIDIA competitors with ease, even that it's siblings the 9800 Pro and 9800 XT were around as good follow ups, the 9700 Pro still holds this record.
    5.) NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTX, the mighty G80-350-A2 GPU , this is probably NVIIDA's biggest revolution as GPU's go, it was their R300, although it didn't last as long as R300 did, but it's success was very similar though, 8800 Ultra with G80-450-A3 came half a year later, this wasn't much of a revolution because it didn't add new features to the package, it was mostly seen as a waiste of money and noadays it's seen as the last real Ultra fron NVIDIA, it's more a relic these days, even it has a G80 GPU, itsnot the revolutionary one which G80-350-A2 from 8800 GTX is.
    6.) ATi Radeon HD 4870, the RV770 XT tHOR VU, this was certainly a revolution by having the ebst price/preferomance factor it also added DX10.1 support to the package, DX10.0 done right, since it was a faster way of rendering DX10 images over amuch shorter data path, it also added some extra 3D features to the package and much better CFX Scaling from 1 to 2 VPU's.
    7.) ATi Radeon HD 5870 featuring the RV870 XT Cypress VPU, this is probably the new R300, as being the first DX11/OGL 4.0 VPU on the market, it also was 8 months earlier than Fermi, hereby conquering the market like R300 did back in 2003, RV870 earns the revolutionary badge as this goes.

    So that are my top 7 revolutions of VGA's.

    I added on Voodoo5 6000, because this was a 55 week long project that bled out 3dfx and it was no where near to a success, it was one big failure, it lead the company to nothing, NVIDIA bought their assets afterwards on December 21, year2000. The V6K was not the only failure that elad to their death, it began with Banshee, by using more than half of the Rampage designer team to work on Banshee & Banshee II aka Avenger, then Napalm, then Daytona and the delays of Rampage it's self this killed them, they slowly bled to death, thx to their own mistakes.

    So no, even how mighty a 6000 or a Rampage looks, they made no revolutions, they were technological failures that never made it, this does not mean that they are not interesting ;) That would lead toa different story, the tech they had was used with SST1 and SST2 even with prototypes, SLI it's self is avery old technique, probably older than 3dfx it's self.

    So the true winner to all these revolutions is deffintely the Array technology Industry R300 VPU used for the most revolutionary VGA card made in the world, the ATi Radeon 9700 Pro:

    Hercules 3D PROPHET 9700 PRO AGP 128MB 256Bit DDR Rev.A2 0251
    http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/2936…A2+0251+top.JPG http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/2935…2+0251+back.JPG http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/2936…51+headshot.JPG

    Okay here it is, only two items missing within the uber shot, which is the Interplay 7 level Descent Demo USA mini boxed:
    [Blockierte Grafik: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/36228-2/ID1Demo.jpg]

    &

    BytingEdge International Inc. USA Descent 3-D Air Combat 7 Level Descent Demo
    [Blockierte Grafik: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/36224-2/BEIusad1dem.jpg]

    And they are within one of them many boxes and no I am not gonna do this again, since I just tidied up rofl, So to relay it all for just two lousy items? uhm no rofl [Blockierte Grafik: http://descent2.de/forum/images/smiles/icon_lolol.gif]

    Here the entire lot:
    [Blockierte Grafik: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/43251-2/The+entire+Descent+-+Freespace+collection.jpg]

    And only the boxes which is like 70% of the entire collection:
    [Blockierte Grafik: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/43254-2/The+entire+Descent+-+Freespace+collection+boxes+only.jpg]

    Anyways it's f*ck'n HUGE! And yeah it's bigger than I though it was really! Crikey it even scared me rofl blink.png ugly.gif

    I also made a little tibutial video of this with Dire Staits - So Long, which still has to be converted to DivX, once I have uploaded it I will edit this post. I chose this song because iit took me so long to build this all up, to collect them and find them, you name it! X-D.gif

    So yeah, since October 24, 1994 til this very day, it was well worth doing and yes I will keep on collecting if I come accross something I don't own yet, don't worry my friends, it will keep growing as long as I keep finding new items to add to it 8)

    naaah this is no way my best setup, this is just one inbetween, the Dual OpteronDP 2380 C2 is my best, which crushes this one in Flight Sim X + REX 1.2, the GTX 295 RE's are in here:

    Blue Leader SMP 2009
    [Blockierte Grafik: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/41430-2/The+GTX+295+RE_s+all+cleaned+up.JPG] [Blockierte Grafik: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/39172-2/The+GTX+295+RE_s+enabled+finals.JPG] [Blockierte Grafik: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/41415-2/Blue+Leader+SMP+2009.JPG]

    Dual Quad Core AMD OpteronDP 2380 C2 Shanghai HT1.1 8x 2500Mhz, 8x 512KB L2, 2x 6144KB L3
    4x 4096MB PC2-6400 ECC Reg Kingston Value Ram in Quad Channel DDR2-800 mode [Two Dual Channel DDR2-800 Pools in system one per Quad Core CPU, hence two CPU's, thus Quad Channel DDR2-800]
    Supermicro H8DAE-2 NVIDIA NFORCE 3600 Professional + MCP55 Pro + IO55
    1x Supermicro SIM LP-B IPMI 2.0 Card 16MB SDRAM
    1x EVGA GeForce GTX 295 Red Edition PCI-E 1792MB 896Bit GDDR3 [in practical 2x 896MB 448Bit GDDR3]
    In 32 Lane Quad SLI with
    1x EVGA GeForce GTX 295 Red Edition Golden Sample PCI-E 1792MB 896Bit GDDR3 [in practical 2x 896MB 448Bit GDDR3] 1 of 20 known worldwide, of all 103 GTX 295 RE's made]
    Onboard Realtek HD Audio
    2x Broadcom 1Gigabit Ethernet Adapters
    4x Western Digital Caviar 500GB RE3 24/7 series 32MB Cache RAID0
    Antec True Power Quattro Series 1000Watt EPS12V + 2.3V
    Lian Li PC-A7010 Black Server Tower
    iiyama ProLite B2403WS-B1 24" TFT

    As for the i7 it will be replaced with a Dual OpteronDP 4184 end of this year, it simply does not inspire me enough, I have 2CPU blood and it lacks cores, so back to Dual Opterons ;)
    I will be taking a Motherboard that has the C32 Chipset, that is 2CPU based and has native CFX support :)

    ASUS has avery interesting motherboard which does seem very appealing:


    KCMA-D8
    http://www.asus.com/product.aspx?P…9ZS5&templete=3

    [Blockierte Grafik: http://www.asus.com/websites/global/products/b9Vaqw4iFXWF9ZS5/P_500.jpg]

    After asking Mu-Engineer, he answered my question with the needed iinformation, he's an AMD Engineer that has been a member of our board for years :

    Zitat von Gold Leader;786286

    Ahh that's a good heads up then :) Could it be possible that CrossFireX will work on that speceffic motherboard Mu_Engneer?

    Since it has an AMD chipset and two PC-E x16 slots for VGA cards, main one is x16 the secondary is x8 speeds, but still enough for a good 2-way CFX or Quad CFX setup right :)

    Quad CFX hereby using Dual Radeon X2 based VGA's.

    Zitat von MU_Engineer;786287

    I think it would work, since AMD lists the PCIe lane split for the SR56x0 northbridges as such:

    - SR5690 (42 lanes, 11 engines): Two x16, one x16/two x8, or four x8. This is an RD890 part like the desktop 890FX and should work in CrossFire, as long as AMD didn't twiddle with anything and disable CrossFire.

    - SR5670 (30 lanes, 9 engines): One x16, two x8, or three x8. Who knows about CrossFire on this one as there is no analog on the desktop to this part as of yet. It would be possible in an x8/x8 manner, but I don't know if the silicon supports it.

    - SR5650 (22 lanes, 8 engines): One x16 or two x8. This appears to be similar to the desktop RX880 (870) and CrossFire is not enabled on the desktop 870, so I doubt it would work here. I haven't seen any SR5650 boards with more than one PCIe x16 slot anyway, so I think this would be a moot point.

    He will go and seek this out, if the board does not have CFX support I will go for the MSI variant, just to save money which looks like this:


    Zitat von fastvan67;775735

    fastvan67, an old 2CPU.com mate of mine, he is the one that started the topic of this cool look'n 2CPU C32 motherboard, as you can see it has exactly the same Heatsink brackets as Socket F & Socket 940/939/754 motherboards, this gives this platform a gret advantage cooler wise :)
    topic can be found here:
    http://forums.2cpu.com/showthread.php?t=96015

    Which I also have been attending to here:
    http://forums.2cpu.com/showthread.php?t=97516

    It seems I found the fix for these motherboard CPU cooler wise, which will give a much greater range of choice, which is perfect for us Opty 2CPU'ers :)

    @ 2CPU.com we think different, as our slogan goes:
    [Blockierte Grafik: http://www.abload.de/img/2cpu8os8.jpg]

    heh ahh oke Ultra low Dx9 yeah well any systm from your time could run it smooth, as for a 4ghz I7 that will fly circles around it even at urltra low settings.

    But okay, even though for your old setup, them scores are too good to be true,even being you'd have to show us that it really does do them 40 to 80fps, hard to believe without a screenshot or video of proof xD ;)

    Sorry, but I prefer to stick to Seeing Is Believing , good ole Diamond Multimedia's Monster3D II saying , it just says it all 8)

    But tthis might be interesting for you to try as well, since Crysis isn't a real DX10 game, it's DX9.0c game with Advanced DX 9.0c locks, to force people to use win vista aka Win6 to make advantage of them, well thx to this DX10 hank which GAT and I were testing, we proved that then very high settings were just locked DX9 features and that the game content is not DX10 based! hah!

    read more here:
    Crysis Demo

    THX for the welcome!

    The Voodoo will not overheat. There is enough space. The second card under the Voodoo(hard to see) is a ActionReplay Communication Card wich i use with my Sega Saturn. But it is very smal. The whole system is very cool also after a long gaming day on Lan.

    If there is a venturi on 2cpu.com it is not me ^^
    I am reading this page for a while.. created the user in 2008 :)

    The cable on your picture is the CD Rom connector. Because there is an Notebook CD build in this case.

    Sorry for the bad school english.

    Ahh okay! Better late than never righty xD, but thanks man about the yellow cable's deffinition 8) And hay!, your eng is just fine man :thumbup:

    Yeah well I'm from the Netherlands, although I grew up in Australia, hence my english as that goes, but everyone over here knew that allready as that one goes haha, ah well :topmodel:

    Understandable about your V4 rig hehe, good idea too, you could do a casemod with that thing, top view of plexiglass, add some orange and white 10cm CCFL's from Sharkoon in there, hence being orange was the house colours of 3dfx Interactive :)

    It would be doable I'm think'n :topmodel:

    Hey Welcome to Voodooalert.de venturi for starters! 8)

    Nice setup you got there, 4500 PCI, good choice too man :respekt: Pretty tight spot though, or is there enough space under it's cooler, so it can't overheat?

    as for your username, are you venturi from 2cpu.com?

    Just wondering :topmodel:

    @ S2 Sedan

    What is this connector for actually?
    [Blockierte Grafik: http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/3471/83148657.jpg]

    does that connect to the V5 MAC's VESA connector? Just wondering since it looks a little odd to me :topmodel:

    Here's Firefox X58 upgraded :)

    http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/4207…+sound+card.JPG http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/4206…+panel+view.JPG http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/4307…on+art+view.JPG

    Intel Core i7 930 D0 Bloomfield Land Grid Array 1366, 4x 2800Mhz, 4x 256KB L2, 1x 8192KB L3
    3x 2048MB PC3-12800 Corsair Dominator in Tri Channel DDR3-1333 mode at the moment.
    EVGA E758 X58 3x SLI Motherboard with the Intel X58 Tylersburg Chipset
    1x Hightech Industry Systems ATi Radeon HD 4870 ICEQ4+ PCI-E 1024MB GDDR5
    in 32 Lane 2-Way CFX with:
    1x Pine XFX ATi Radeon HD 4870 XXX Edition PCI-E 1024MB GDDR5 [Limited 12 Layer PCB Test Sample, "Card 019" of 032 made in the world]
    2x 500GB Western Digital Caviar RE3 24/7 series HDD's in Raid 0
    Antec True Power Quattro Series 850Watt EPS12V + 2.3V
    Lian Li PC-60 MK II + PC-65USD Side window
    Gold Leader's Hangar Bay Mod + Gold Leader's Koensayr BTL-S3 Y-Wing Starfighter
    2x 30CM Sharkoon Blue CCFL's
    2x 30CM Sharkoon Yellow CCFL's
    2x 80mm x 80mm x 25mm Antec Tri Cool Red / Green / Blue Tri-Led Fans, 1 in rear & 1 in ceiling
    1x 120mm x 120mm x 25mm Antec tri-Cool Green ledded fan in front as intake.
    Samsung SyncMaster 943-BW 19" 720p HD TFT max reso 1440 x 900 x32 @ 75 Herz Contrast = 2000:1 Dynamic Contrast is 50.000:1 good for the marketing that last one xD

    @ Tim

    it seems that ebay removed that auction... talking about how retarded ebay can be, makes me wonder why?

    Tim's url leads to this:
    [Blockierte Grafik: http://www.abload.de/thumb/ebaybull7ecl.jpg]

    Odd shite 'aight.

    And ow for that 6K, it went no where, the seller kept it.. Seems that the lasthigh bidders were not taken seriously becuse they caused shipping issues rofl, that must of been a beating heh, so he decided to keep the card and also the system.

    I added him to my world lists he is rimshaker and he has two fully functional Rev.A 3700's both without PCI ReWork + late Single Pinned Voodoo Volts, 1 card has extra capacitors C15 and C17, bot units are fully functionsl :)

    I even advised him to keep these cards since they are in working condition, as I told him how rare they really are after showing my lists he liked the idea of keeping them isntead, which is plain awesome.

    USA 2 V6K's richer w00t.

    Hey El rey, could it be possible that Fallout3 or New Vegas, since having the same engine, would eb able to run on a Voodoo5 5500 ? just looking at the engine there are alot of DX8.1 texures in it, even being a DX9 app, maybe there is a way to override the ini or cfg file so a 5500 PCI or AP will be accepted. Just wondering, maybe SFFT 1.5 and 3D Analys might be needed for this one, but somehow it should be possible.

    Well, I got around 16 to 32 fps in Crysis. I think, it's very good for my old system ^^

    [Blockierte Grafik: http://www.abload.de/img/crysis24xan.jpg]

    Ahh yes very good fps indeed, hmm I have to admit that Cat 10.10 + AGP hotfix has alotof speed upgrades for AGP cards also, as user of the HIS HD 3850 ICEQ3 Turbo AGP aka HIS HD 3870 AGP, it does have some performance boosts in Crysis, maybe your X 1950 Pro could have some advantage of the new driver set as well.

    but asyour fps yous, it's barely playable,16fps isn't enough lol, although 32 is just good enough for a bit of fluid motion, Crysis remains abitch even for new gen setups so if you look atr it that way, your setup is doing exceedingbly well.

    thx for posting man, I respect such things alot :respekt::thumbup:

    p.s. You could upgrade your ram amount to 2 to 3 GB this can help alot as min fps goes, I think your ram is your bottleneck for Crysis, I found this out when removed 1x 1024MB from my 2048MB packed Dual OpteronMP 850 CG when running the game on the HD 3870 AGP, just a side tip there 8)

    Hmm interestiing shot there CryptoNite :)

    How much fps did the game give you? 30 fps is just tad on hehe, as for the VGA card RV570 Pro heh not a bad one man, it's still the 3rd best AGP card on the market, as being the HD 4670 as second best and HD 3850 AGP as being first best,, these results are very good for your VPU, very interested in the real time frames per second man.

    Keep up this great work!

    This thread is really soiling my jocks right now :topmodel:

    Hay Hutze don't forget a bucket, looks like you're gonna take a dump mate! Crkey! :topmodel:xD

    "taking a dump" is Australian for tak'n a sh*t ya know ;):bonk::spitze:


    AND NOW I HAVE NO MORE BEER AAARRRRGGGHHHHHH :grr::mauer:8|:cursing::thumbdown: NO MORE GOLDEN FUEL THIS IS BAAADDD ARRGGHHH KEIN FREI BIER MEHR!!!! :grr::thumbdown::cursing:8|:mauer::steinigung::topmodel::bonk::grr: AAARRRGGGHHHH

    It hurts xD:topmodel:

    Ah well Java then orsay Cuppa Coffee ya know, gotta drink someth'n :spitze: Buuut after rethinking my life uhm naah it's like 01:30 AM now rofl, so it might as well be Orange Juice then damn I miss my Johny Walker Green Label now :love: owwww arrghhhh :mauer::bonk::topmodel: