Pretty neat stuff!
Hm, is the upper processor getting enough air in that configuration?
Yep, there's enough airflow from the fan mounted above the IDE drives to keep it nice and cool.
Looks magnificent!
Nice case, do you have a link to the manufactor?
Have no link to the specific model as it's over ten years old now. I'm not sure Kingwin even makes cases any more.
Moved the rig to a new case. This is a Kingwin case that I converted to inverted-ATX. All I needed to do was cut a new slot on the back panel for the inverted tray and move the support rails over, then pop rivet it all in place. Also added an extra support to straighten the tray because the back panel was slightly warped.
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Jetzt hab ich endlich von jeder PIII Xeon Serie die fetteste Variante am Start, und alle stecken in laufenden Systemen
2x550/2M / IBM Z-Pro (GX440 Chipset)
2x900/2M / AOpen DX2G
2x1000/256k / IBM Z-Pro (i840 Chipset)echt goil
Very nice! All I need to reach the same goal is an i840 board.
hey super^^
bin schon voll auf die Ergebnisse gespannt!
m1919, can you read the german sentences or should I translate the meaning of my posts to engish? I don´t want to exclude you from the conversation
but i have to excuse my incomplete english- knowledge...
Google translate seems to work well enough for me to understand what's being posted, I can usually fill in the blanks where it fails to work.
I'm excited to see this build when it's finished. I'm interested to see how a Voodoo5 5500 modified to 256MB performs compared to a stock card. 
I may be grabbing a pair of 933Mhz Xeons sometime to test in my XG-DLS rig. Been wanting to do some actual clock-for-clock comparisons between the 700Mhz/1MB Xeons and small cache-Xeons; they should be on level playing field with the 933s running with a 7x multiplier.
On the 900Mhz/2MB discussion, I've also been looking for a pair of these for a long time. In the year since I bought the XG-DLS board, I haven't once seen a pair of these on ebay, which really sucks since other people seem to be able to get their hands on this stuff far more easily than I do.
Speaking of bios updates, I remember reading over some old posts on 2cpu or another board that someone made a custom bios for the Intel MS440GX board that added support for 700Mhz+ Xeons. I'd love to get my hands on that lol.
OMG! I could imagine, that it´s pretty difficult to made a bios by his own?
by the way: i bought the aopen board with the two 550mhz xeonsonly 30,50€ incl shipping
in deutsch: hab mir das teil geschossen XDwuuki
I think it was a modified bios, apparently created by someone on the design team for the original Intel 440GX board.
Speaking of bios updates, I remember reading over some old posts on 2cpu or another board that someone made a custom bios for the Intel MS440GX board that added support for 700Mhz+ Xeons. I'd love to get my hands on that lol.
Normal I dont have bling bling cases, not so spectacular
Here you can see the Board mounted in a intel "Astor II" Server Chassis powered by Delta
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Pretty clean setup. Also, does your board need a 6-pin AUX to run or does it do fine without?
Just wondering because one guy on Vogons insists that the 6-pin on the ASUS XG-DLS should be supplied power if possible, but my board runs fine without it and even the manual states that the AUX is only needed if the 20-pin can't supply the required power for the board.
What a waste. Can't really understand the need to modify historical pieces of hardware like that. I mean, if it dies, you're out hundreds, even a few thousand dollars.
My favorite 3dfx experience is tied between three things.
The first would be running Unreal Tournament in Glide mode on the Obsidian2 200 SBi in my XG-DLS based P3 Xeon rig. It was so satisfying to finally run UT in glide after only having experienced it in OpenGL or Direct3d on other machines.
The second is probably booting up my A-Trend FW6400GX w/ P3 Xeon 1Ghz + Voodoo5 5500. It was only brief table-top test, but it worked great and now I'm pretty much set on that basic setup for a Windows 98SE rig.
Last would probably be running a pair of Voodoo2 12MBs in SLI on my XG-DLS rig. I never had the chance to play around with a pair of genuine Voodoo2s until just recently, so that was pretty cool.
Now I'm on the hunt for a PCI Voodoo5 5500. Mostly because I want to plop that card onto my WIP K8T Master-2FAR build to see what it can really do.
So
hab das System erstmal zusammengebaut und jetzt testhalber Win 2K testhalber auf IDE installiert.
Die Ergebnisse im Everest sehen schon mal sehr gut aus. Um die Leistungsfähigkeit mal besser einstufen zu können hab ich gerade mal GAT´s Megabench gestartet
Any pics of the setup?
That is one of the problems. in most cases the shipping costs are higher than the hardware
Dont you get one inside US? shipping costs must be much lower inside I think...
I live in Canada, but shipping from US is expensive on large items. Most US sellers who ship large items on ebay use UPS, which is a total ripoff most of the time.
I think I might have seen a few people selling just the board itself. If I could get the board and RDRAM riser, I could probably build a working machine from just those alone. Unless the power supply is proprietary... I already have the VRMs needed leftover from the MS440GX build.
For FSB133 Xeon I have a separate system. original build from IBM with 8 Rambus sockets on a Riser card. I use it with 8x256MB Rambus and two 1000/133/256k Xeons
I'm actually looking around for one of those, I remember seeing a few on ebay last year, but was not going to pay $200+ in shipping to get one.
Um die spärlichen Infos rund um das Thema zusammenzufassen hier mal ein Thread wo alles zu Slot2 hinein kann
one thread for all information about Slot2 hardware
Ebay Link (neues AOpen DX2G Plus) / Hier ein Review zu dem Board
ich habe das Board Gestern bekommen und gleich mal zusammengebaut, erster Test mit 2x900/2M verlief negativ. offensichtlich noch ein zu altes Bios. Das letzte welches ich finden konnte habe ich runtergeladen und probiere ob das Abhilfe schafft.
i received the board yesterday, first run with 2x900/2M was negative, I think the installed Bios is to old. I pick up the last available and will install this these days. I hope it will fix the problem.
Did the board come with brackets when you got yours? For some reason most of the slot-2 stuff I come across don't have anything except the board.
Also, since this is the Slot-2 hardware thread...
The first rig you have already seen, the second set below are of the MS440GX I was running before the XG-DLS. I've heard there was a custom bios written a long while ago by one of the engineers who worked on the MS440GX, that would allow this board to run 700Mhz and 900Mhz Xeons. Has anyone else heard about this custom bios?
The third are of my next project rig based on the A-Trend Freeway FW6400GX/150. I'm planning to run one of my 1Ghz P3 Xeons on it, along with the Voodoo5 5500 for a Windows 98SE rig. Hopefully the Voodoo5 will be able to handle 88Mhz on the AGP bus...
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In workstation & Server apps a Dual Pentium!!! Xeon 900Mhz with 2MB L2 can have the upper hand over a Dual Pentium!!!/S 1400 I guess, just due to the L2 cache which is four times as large?
I am sure Intel did this for a reason right? Afaik P3 Xeons were always better and more powerful than the P3 desktop counterparts even the higher clocked ones, I could be mistaken here though.
There was a fairly large performance drop between my 700/1MB Xeons running at 784Mhz and the 1Ghz P3 Xeons running at 840Mhz, both were run at the same 112Mhz bus speed. At least, a noticeable drop in 3dmark01. I remember people saying a long time ago that the large cache provided negligible performance increase over regular P3s, but that doesn't really seem to be the case, unless 3dmark01 just really likes the extra cache.
I don't think a pair of 900/2MBs would top a pair of P3-S though, the clock speed even with 512kb of cache would probably outperform them.
I might grab a pair of 933Mhz Xeons to make a fairer comparison with the 700/1MB Xeons on the XG-DLS clock-for-clock at some point. I think the small cache Xeons get a fair boost in performance when running on the i840 platform with RDRAM, but I don't have a Slot-2 i840 board yet, so I can't make any real comparisons between small and large cache Xeons yet. Hopefully I get lucky some day with my Iwill DCA200 search. It's supposed to be able to run small and large cache Xeons and it also supports both 2.8V or 5/12V.
I think it would be interesting to compare both types of Xeon on the i840 chipset with RDRAM. I think the large cache Xeons would definitely outperform the small cache Xeons of equivalent clock speed.
Display MoreI've actually already got that one saved. I'm hoping to find someone who's selling multiples so I can buy in a pair though.
Heh, this rig benchmarks better than some P4s?
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Oh yeah my Dual P3/EB 1000 even smoked P4's @ 3.06Ghz when it comes to FPU tasks.
Take RC5-64 or OGR-25 as very good examples
My Dual P3/EB 1000 did 5.6Mega Keys per sec @ 1000 Mhz per CPU and 6.2 Mega Keys per sec @ 1170Mhz OC per CPU a P4 3.06Ghz did about 4.2 Mega Keys per sec lolP4's need lots of Mhz to perform and they also had to rely on setups that used PC-800 & PC-1066 Rambus memory to get the max out of them.
As the P3's advantages goes is all thanks to their powerful Floating Point UnitsThey will simply annihilate any P4 when it comes to Performance per Mhz and mainly Floating Point Unit operations.
I knew the late P3s thrashed the early P4s in performance, but I wasn't expecting lower clocked Xeons to perform that well. Probably why some people still used slot-2 Xeon rigs for folding and seti back in the early 2000s.
Too bad the Slot-2 platform was cut short by the P4 Xeon. Imagine how awesome a Tualatin based Slot-2 Xeon could have been?
I've actually already got that one saved. I'm hoping to find someone who's selling multiples so I can buy in a pair though.
Heh, this rig benchmarks better than some P4s?
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As that Dual P3 Xeons go? Well I'd give them a Matrox Parhelia AGP or PCI-X 256MB any day
If I ever get my hands on a DCA200, I'd definitely try a PCI-X Parhelia 256MB on it.
nice machine @ m1919
but the Leadtek is a little to new I think
Heh, yeah. Maybe I'll put the Ti4600 back in, or an earlier card some time.
Hi all!
Here's a project rig I've been working on for a while now. I call it "Xeon Prime".
The rig has been through a couple changes before arriving at this point. Originally I was running an Intel MS440GX board with a pair of 550/1MB Xeons, 2GB of PC100, FX5200, Obsidian2 SBi 200 and an SB Live! I swapped the FX5200 out for a Ti4600 when I moved to the XG-DLS, 700/1MB Xeons and a 2GB set of PC133. Later I swapped in the WinFast A350 and then eventually the WinFast A380. The 73GB SCSIs, USB 2.0 card, hot-swap bay and the PSU are the only things that haven't changed since I first put this machine together.
I've also run a pair of 1Ghz/256kb Xeons on this board, but it'll only hit 112Mhz FSB by jumper setting, so I was stuck at 840Mhz. Performance was sub-par compared to the 700/1MB Xeons running at 784Mhz on the same bus speed. I think the board can do 133Mhz FSB with a software overclock, but I'm too lazy right now to dig out the 1Ghz Xeons to test it out.
Ultimately, I'm looking to get a pair of 2.8v 900/2MB Xeons, but they're really hard to find. I have a pair of 5/12v 900/2MBs, but they're useless unless I get lucky and find an Iwill DCA200 to run them on.
If you've seen the XG-DLS before, you'll also notice the processor brackets are not stock. When I bought this board about eight months ago, it came bare without nothing else except the I/O plate. It was missing the full-sized metal backplate and rubber sheet along with the brackets. It sat in storage until I was able to get a pair of bracket sets from a Gateway server, one pair of which was modified for use on the XG-DLS.
Antec Earthwatts 380W
ASUS XG-DLS | Dual P3 Xeon 700/1Mb SL49P @784Mhz | 2GB Micron PC133 ECC
Leadtek WinFast A380 Ultra | Quantum3d Obsidian2 200SBi | Creative Audigy 2 | Generic USB 2.0 Card
HP ML350 Hotswap Bay | Hitachi 73GB 10K | Seagate 73GB 10k | Hitachi CD/DVD
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