Meet Sveta SMP 2001

    Hi all :)


    Here a new Dual P3 project of mine which will involve a PC Flashed 3dfx Voodoo5 5500 PCI Macintosh as main VGA and an AWE64 Gold! as sound card with two Intel Pentium!!!/S 1400Mhz CPU's each with 512KB L2 Cache 8)

    I just bought the following parts for this project

    The Motherboard + 1x P3/S 1400Mhz with HSF new from old stock:

    SuperMicro P3TDLE + Intel Pentium!!!/S 1400Mhz SL6BY With HSF:
    http://www.ebay.ie/itm/1510166260…984.m1497.l2649
    http://www.supermicro.com/products/mothe…3/le/p3tdle.cfm
    [Blockierte Grafik: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/5696…+P3TDLE+top.jpg]
    [Blockierte Grafik: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/5696…TDLE+angled.jpg]
    Official photo's btw xD

    1x Intel Pentium!!!/S 1400Mhz SL6BY CPU:
    http://www.ebay.ie/itm/1105411577…984.m1497.l2649
    [Blockierte Grafik: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/56970-1/P3-S+1400+CPU_s.JPG]

    2x Thermaltake Golden Orb for Socket 370 new from old Stock Boxed:
    http://www.ebay.ie/itm/1306158511…984.m1497.l2649
    [Blockierte Grafik: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/5697…den+orb+top.JPG]
    [Blockierte Grafik: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/5697…n+Orb+Boxed.jpg]
    I will keep this thread up to date as I progress it 8)

    The other parts I have for this beauty are these xD

    3dfx Voodoo5 5500 PCI Macintosh with PC Bios 1.18_LCD:
    Top:
    http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/3124…A1+2900+Top.JPG

    Rear:
    http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/3123…1+2900+Back.JPG

    Headshot:
    http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/3124…00+Headshot.JPG

    Creative Labs CT4540 AWE64 Gold! Second Revision:
    Top:
    http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/4351…A1+4797+top.JPG

    Rear:
    http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/4351…1+4797+rear.JPG

    Headshot:
    http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/4350…97+headshot.JPG

    here the name and final specs of this build:

    Sveta SMP 2001

    Dual Intel Pentium!!!/S Tualatin 1400Mhz Server CPU's
    Supermicro P3TDLE with Serverworks Serverset III LE Chipset
    4x 512MB PC-133 ECC Reg. HP/Micron Server Ram , 4x 1024MB PC-133 ECC Reg. HP/Micron as later upgrade.
    3dfx Voodoo5 5500 PCI Macintosh PC-Flashed to Bios 1.18_LCD & Modded to 2x 128MB 166Mhz ISSI SDRAM by Loschwerg from Voodooalert.de.
    Creative Labs CT4540 AWE64 Gold! ISA 8MB
    1x Samsung 1.44MB Floppy Drive
    1x Western Digital Caviar SE 250GB 7200rpm HDD
    Addtronics 6896A Entry Level Server Tower
    Enermax EG 565 VE PSU
    Iiyama Vision Master Pro 452 Max Reso: 1600 x 1200 x32 @ 76 Herz, Advised Reso: 1280 x 960 x32 @ 92 Herz
    Compaq S710 Max Reso: 1280 x 1024 x32 @ 60 herz, Advised Reso: 1024 x 768 x32 @ 85 Herz. as temporal solution :)

    Windows 2000 Professional UK + Service Pack4
    AmigaMerlin 3.1 R1
    AmigaMerlin 3.1 R6
    AmigaMerlin 3.1 R11as main stability driver.

    Here some other milestone projects that were achieved by Komponent @ Falconfly.de:

    The group-buy of 16Mb chips for VSA100 based cards:
    (Contains some nice infos)
    http://www.falconfly.de/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1220381997

    Voodoo4 4500 AGP 64MB:
    http://www.falconfly.de/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1145604124

    Voodoo4 4500 PCI 64MB:
    http://www.falconfly.de/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1223587794

    Voodoo4 4500 AGP 128MB:
    http://www.falconfly.de/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1232877537

    Voodoo5 5500 AGP 128MB:
    http://www.falconfly.de/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1223002040

    Voodoo5 5500 PCI 128MB:
    http://www.falconfly.de/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1364630437

    So I wanna be the first to have a PC Flashed 3dfx Voodoo5 5500 PCI Macntosh 256MB :topmodel::spitze:

    14 Mal editiert, zuletzt von Gold Leader (31. März 2013 um 08:58)

    Gefällt mir :spitze:
    Sollte das nicht so gut laufen auch eine lustige Setup, für V2SLI auch währe die CPU etwas zu hart.
    Gruß, Andy.

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    Hehe thanks Andy xD I am more of a V5 type the PC Flashed V5 PCI Mac I will be using will be going to Loschwerg for a VRAM Upgrade and a massive one it will get 8x 32MB 166Mhz ISSI SDRAM giving it 2x 128MB 166Mhz SDRAM over it's default 2x 32MB 166Mhz SDRAM from Toshiba rofl.

    My goal is to run any Glide game @ 1600 x 1200 without VRAM issues, with 128 megs per VSA-100 you see where I am going? xD
    Even with FSAA x2 and x4 this will seem resourceful, I also want to support Loschwerg with this project, so far no one has ever given a V5 of any kind 128MB SDRAM per VSA-100, so with this I wanna be the first with this and I shall give Loschwerg the great honor to apply my PC Flashed V5 PCI Mac with this VRAM upgrade :thumbup:

    Anyhoo, I will keep you all informed with this project in this thread, you know that i am bad at keeping a surprise so I might as well add this in to the thread as well xD I missed them good old 3dfx projects of the past and it was time for something entirely different and this is it, I hope you all are going to like it, I'm sure I will! :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

    Einmal editiert, zuletzt von Gold Leader (24. März 2013 um 23:46)

    Voodoo 5 5500 with 256 MB memory and 2 P-IIIs @ 1400Mhz?! 8o
    I wonder how the GeForce 2 GTS will compare.

    And congrats to the monitor, Gold Leader! Seems to be one with a Trinitron screen?

    Zitat von Cyberhawk

    Voodoo 5 5500 with 256 MB memory and 2 P-IIIs @ 1400Mhz?! 8o
    I wonder how the GeForce 2 GTS will compare.

    And congrats to the monitor, Gold Leader! Seems to be one with a Trinitron screen?


    Yes sir, it's the one with a Trinitron display, which i think is from Sony right?

    This is the Monitor I bought for this retro Duallie [sm=001_cool.gif]
    http://britaincloud.co.uk/45720-iiyama-v…er-pro-452.html :spitze:

    Here a pic of the one I bought:

    [Blockierte Grafik: http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/56994-1/VMPro+452.JPG]
    Pic is from the seller I got it from :)

    But yeah Dual P3/S 1400's with a 256 meg PC Flashed V5 PCI Mac in the main PCI-X 64Bit 66Mhz Slot. This is quite the 3dfx dream machine I always wanted to build and hay these days it's all very affordable too :)
    Since that getting a Voodoo5 6000 is a bit out of reach these days, I thought about getting the max out of my PC Flashed Voodoo5 5500 PCI Macintosh, by upgrading it with 8x 32MB 166Mhz ISSI SDRAM Chips, so that is 128MB 166Mhz SDRAM per VSA-100, this is possible due to the research done with this Voodoo4 4500 AGP 128MB:
    http://www.falconfly.de/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1232877537

    We have learnt that the Napalm Bios automatically adapts and detects the upgraded VRAM buffer of 128MB, so in theory a V5 5500 AGP, PCI/PCI mac should be able to detect the extra dded VRAM per VSA-100. In theory a V5 5500 is nothing but a Dual V4 4500. And Since ISSI makes 32MB SDRAM chips clocked @ 166Mhz this project can be proceeded by Loschwerg, he is the techie to take on such things, I am willing to be the first of such a project and I hope this will help convince other V5 5500 users that such a VRAM upgrade is possible, if it is effective? Well that is where that Iiyama Vision Master Pro 452 comes to place.

    It can do 1600 x 1200, which is the ideal Resolution to test the V5 5500 PCI Mac 256MB and see if the Extra VRAM took any impact to the card's overall performance. What I want to prevent is VRAM Loss in games, so it will never run out of VRAM in any resolution beyond 1152 x864 x16/32, so with this VRAM upgrade I think that limitation can be penetrated.

    I always wanted to do a new 3dfx project, but I never could find what to do, until this crazy plan came to mind xD:topmodel:

    6 Mal editiert, zuletzt von Gold Leader (31. März 2013 um 08:21)

    Absolutely lovely monitor! Apparently they are dirt cheap now.

    And the right time for buying a CRT monitor appears to be... right now :thumbup: *goes to ebay and puts a sony trinitron monitor on watch list*

    1024x768 just doesn't look like it should on an LCD monitor, not to mention anything lower than that.

    Zitat von Cyberhawk

    Absolutely lovely monitor! Apparently they are dirt cheap now.

    And the right time for buying a CRT monitor appears to be... right now :thumbup: *goes to ebay and puts a sony trinitron monitor on watch list*

    1024x768 just doesn't look like it should on an LCD monitor, not to mention anything lower than that.


    I agree there, also CRTs have an advantage not only they have amuch greater lifespan, they also can handle much lower reso's under 800 x 600, like 640 x 480 & 320 x 200, most TFT's can't go lower than 800 x 600 and I find this a major problem, since I am more of a retro gamer, such limitations disable me to enjoy my old games and such.

    Thanks to this CRT those options are reopened again :)

    CRTs rule as far as picture quality goes. LCDs cannot match that, they are coming closer now (still not fully there I think), but for years they were waaay worse.

    1. You get higher framerates with CRTs. They go easily as high as 85Hz, while the better LCDs can do 75Hz, but often they are crippled to 60Hz.
    2. A side effect of that is, even if the reaction time of an LCD monitor is under 5ms, the monitor WILL have blurred motion. It's like everything that moves is out of focus. On CRTs, evn with the flickering 60Hz, objects in motion will stay focused at all times, as long sufficient fps are provided by the graphicscard.
    3. LCDs can only display one resolution correctly, which is their highest. Good luck if you want to go one step lower, you'll get a more or less blurry picture, depending on how well the LCD interpolates...
    4. CRTs have a big range of resolutions they can display correctly, where every pixel has the same shape and thus the picture will look sharper, even though a very big screen will make a low resolution seem more pixelated than a small screen. But the sharpness will not go away like with LCDs.


    I was so blinded by their flat screens and the coolness factor at first... The picture appeared not to be somewhere beneath a thick layer of glass but right at the surface, the colors seemed better to me at the time... I really liked LCD monitors in the beginning. Until mine broke and I had to pull out a CRT again and saw the sharpness and unblurred motion and multiple resolutions, etc.

    Well to be honest if you get a high quality TFT like a S-IPS or S-PVA Panel, the image quality can get higher or as high as that of a Trinitron CRT.
    These panels are extremely good, I have two HP ZR24w's myself these are S-IPS Panels and I have to admit they have damn fine Image Quality. As for them Trinitron CRTs they have no limited view angle this is always a major plus for any type of CRT 8)

    But CRTs will never reach the pixel density of LCDs. When you go below its shadow mask or aperture grille resolution (packing more pixels onto an area that the mask can no longer define properly), it'll just get blurry. Same goes for very high resolutions + refresh rates, you need extremely good cabling and a very good DAC + no crappy filters on your graphics card to get a good enough image.

    Still, when I went from my 21" Trinitrons (with aperture grilles) to my 30" LCD, the thing that blew me away most was the increased sharpness... It was so much sharper than any of my CRTs ever was..

    The motion blurring can be dealt with to some extent by blanking the frames in between (like on those "200Hz" screens). I do agree that the 60Hz thing is suboptimal (I'd be okay with 100Hz, but dual link DVI-D can't provide the necessary bandwidth at my resolution anyway, so no go). Also, fixed resolutions are a problem, agreed. But then again, driving a CRT real high in its resolution doesn't work that well either (say 1600x100 at 100Hz or above 1600x1200 at 85Hz for a 4:3 CRT).

    CRT might be more flexible, but I disagree with the sharpness statement. I have seen tons of CRTs, from cheapos up to high-end Trinitrons, none were as sharp as any run-of-the-mill LCD. The colors and viewing angles are totally different story though, of course... That's what S-PVA and S-/H-/P-IPS are for.

    But still, this is too much LCD bashing for my taste. CRTs aren't that superior at all.

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    2 Mal editiert, zuletzt von GrandAdmiralThrawn (26. März 2013 um 16:10)

    He probably meant the TN & LED TFT's
    The S-IPS & S-PVA's shall always be superior imo too ;) I have two S-IPS's and they have given me the sharpest and ebst image quality I ever seen on any type of Monitor and I believe that S-PVA is even better heh.
    CRT's still have their awesoemness, Image quality on a CRT is much better than a TN or any type of LED Panel, excluding OLED obviously.

    Agreed, the really expensive Full HD TVs have a great sharpness and quite unblurred motion. But the sharpness of a CRT is, as far as I can tell, at the same level as any LCD and objects in motion are so much sharper, even the Full HD TVs with 200Hz are just barely sufficient to come close to that level. And CRTs need just 85Hz for that effect, not 200.

    I might be bashing the LCDs too much there, but that's just because I concentrate on the things they do bad in my opinion. I use an LCD monitor for years on my main PC. It needs less space, it is better for the eyes, no "radiation" is emmited, just light. I wouldn't want to stare into a CRT monitor at work for 8 hours a day. Picture quality of my LCD is quite high if 75Hz are used and no resolutions below the physical.

    But that's the point, CRT is an older technology, yet their picture is the standard which LCDs try to reach and in some cases fail.

    Well if you read GAT's post he does have a point especially this line:

    "CRT might be more flexible, but I disagree with the sharpness statement. I have seen tons of CRTs, from cheapos up to high-end Trinitrons, none were as sharp as any run-of-the-mill LCD. The colors and viewing angles are totally different story though, of course... That's what S-PVA and S-/H-/P-IPS are for."

    I have two HP ZR24w S-IPS Panels and to be very honest I have not seen any CRT give me a better image Quality and sharpness as these S-IPS Panels are giving me, they also go far beyond any LED TV and such too. S-PVA, S-IPS, H-IPS & P-IPS TFT's beat any type of CRT, no matter how you put it when it comes to Image Quality in all aspects.

    The only place where the CRT's win are that they don't have the View angle limitation, that they can run at much lower resolutions than 800 x 600 which I find extremely handy for very old Dos based games. To get the best out of my CRT I am going to use a Gold Plated RGB cable, two shades of Gray Dark and light gray and Red, Blue & Green, to get the max out of it

    A Good Trinitron CRT like the Vision master Pro 452 with a good RBG cable can be compared between a high quality Led Panel and high quality S-IPS Panel, it just sits in between them. I don't want to bash both, but that is what my experience gave me, the panels you are using AT must be S-PVA's because if memory serves me correctly S=PVA have much better shades of black and gray tones than any type of IPS panel. Due to this you get the sharpest image possible on any type of screen.

    Anyways enough of this, I want to keep this ontopic, I don't like it when my threads drift off too much :X :|

    The good news is that my dad is donating me that Iiyama Vision Master Pro 452 and we are gonna pick it up tomorrow yaaay!! :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup: More pics of it tomorrow :):spitze:

    Einmal editiert, zuletzt von Gold Leader (26. März 2013 um 22:32)

    Right, enough of the offtopic talk. I apologize for the derail and patiently wait for news on Sveta SMP 2001!

    Btw., why Sveta? Did you know it's a female name in Russian?

    Zitat von Cyberhawk

    Right, enough of the offtopic talk. I apologize for the derail and patiently wait for news on Sveta SMP 2001!

    Btw., why Sveta? Did you know it's a female name in Russian?


    Oh no worries, everyone can drift off every now and then xD No big deal bud 8)
    Sveta aka Svetlana she is a Russian Trance singer/DJ worked together with PPK Sergey Piemenov a friend of mine which I helped make their second trance hit Reload 8)

    Pjotr Polyakov is the other DJ that formed PPK with him PPK also means Piemenov Pjotr polyaKov

    Anyways I helped with idea's for their Video of this song like some starfighter battle in space and helped with the translations for Reload to Dutch & German xD

    Sergey Piemenov their main composer sent me the completed video 3 months before it became a hit in my country and that video is this one:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQl6Qmqu0Fk

    That is Sergey's page too rofl xD

    I named the system Sveta with this case back in 1996 when it was my Pentium200 MMX :) And since that day I never named that case anything else.

    Einmal editiert, zuletzt von Gold Leader (27. März 2013 um 14:25)